Quote:Near-death experiences (NDEs) have been described consistently since antiquity and more rigorously in recent years. Investigation into their mechanisms and effects has been impeded by the lack of quantitative measures of the NDE and its components. From an initial pool of 80 manifestations characteristic of NDEs, a 33-item scaled-response preliminary questionnaire was developed

(03-06-2024, 09:27 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Hello BeTheGoddess

I was told by my parents who were told by two different doctors that I should have died on two different and non-related situations as a young child, but here I am. 

So looking at your link with the scale, did you know it is from 1983? I thought to myself has there been no improvement since then? Well, it looks like the same researcher and the same date in the link below, but it was updated in 2022, however the questions may be the same from 1983 ?

https://www.iands.org/research/nde-research/important-research-articles/698-greyson-nde-scale.html

It appears there are hell-like cases as well as heavenly-like cases.

https://www.nderf.org/NDERF/Articles/NDE%20General%20Info.htm

https://www.nderf.org/

Since my NDEs were as a young child and I can't recall the experiences, I can't answer any of the questions, but this is a very interesting topic and I will be happy to be involved, if only reading others' experiences.

As for Carl Jung, I never knew he had a NDE.

[Video: https://youtu.be/2u7ZMXvEdTU?si=4vpN1pZ6E4DaZOx5]

(03-06-2024, 10:02 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: My NDE was on December 3rd 2008. A deliberate heroin overdose. They sent me back for some reason, possibly just some administrative error?. I did not notice it was from 83, as I only skimmed some of it before posting, as mentioned I was looking for something else. 

I have spoken with two different psychiatrists, my regular doctor and at least one psychologist about my NDE. All said how common it is, but not abe to have anything other than peoples own experience.

I wont write out my whole experience, but the weighing of the heart against a feather was part of what I experienced om the other side

https://egypt-museum.com/the-weighing-of-the-heart-ceremony/

I dont know why I was sent back other than to be punished

(03-06-2024, 11:01 AM)quintessentone Wrote: .so no argument there if it's coming from Jesus, right?

(03-06-2024, 11:23 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: No, I am not at all from ANY Christian background. Living in a society that assumes christian by defult is hard to deal sometimes. Try telling a jesus freek about the chakra system existing in the kabbala, they try tell you "but Jesus.." 

The procession of the dead has many different icons but the same philosophy. Thoth can be a green baboon, or some crocodile headed entity. The heart, scales, and judgement are the same.

"(who resembled, what I guess she thought was, Jesus) "

Ok, this is important, some atheist's I have known IRL who had been clinically dead say they experienced nothing, I ask well were YOU there?. People have NDE's influenced by their own philosophy, nad yes Christians often see a "Jesus" entity. in their own view. So the afterlife is in part to me what the person creates in some type of hermetic "be your own god" thing.

Hermies is the Greek equivalent of Thoth, but you knew that.

(03-06-2024, 11:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I should have rephrased that to "so no argument when coming from Jesus, right mom?" because you are right she is from a strict Catholic background and has wrestled with her faith all her life. Maybe there is something in that too.

(03-06-2024, 12:05 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: The scary thing ... most people think a NDE is a tunnel with a loving light at the end.  But I've read many articles that state most people who have an NDE end up in 'the void'.  Total nothingness.  And that they disappear.  They stop existing.  I was all excited to be going somewhere really great based on the tunnel and light NDEs.  Now I have had to rethink that.