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UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - Waterglass - 08-10-2024
Hmm. So this story isn't picked up by the "saintly" USA MSM? Odd isnt it?
https://www.loudountimes.com/0local-or-not/1local/ufo-whistleblower-sues-sheriffs-office-over-records-release/article_b24005c4-490e-11ef-97d5-4bc65ae077be.html
DENY Ignorance. Lets assume that DI is repository for like minded individuals for those who seek the truth. So lets put your thinking caps on and ask yourself as to why his medical records were released by the Virgina cops? Why as in whats their coin in this game. I hope he owns the town after this one but the cops are covered as the lawsuit money will possibly come from a black budget "kitty"?
NONE as the cops have NO coin in the game. Thats the above board game. Then we have the otherside. The dark side. See book by Richard Thieme' Mind Games. I own it. I Read it. I get it as I lived through it.
So to borrow a Q thread from back in the day does the state of Virginia have something in common with either Fort Meade and Langley. Seems to me that based on the release of personal medical records the FEDS are putting the crush on grusch.
The FEDS typical playbook is as follows:
[1] To entrap. Doesnt work go to step two
[2] To discredit. Doesnt work go to step three
[3] Suicide
I am not a fan of Trump but what they did to him and are doing doesnt fit the crime now does it? Yet they let all those other white collar thugs go around and pound law abiding citicizens into the ground. So you want proof just Google it on your own time and deductive reasoning may be required.
I consider my self an participant expert on FED behavior as I have been through the gauntlet and remain under a permanent gag order by a FED Judge. My partner took his life by shotgun and I know directly why. So how is it that these FEDS just happen to lose evidence all the time? Thats a clue.
My opinion is based by the book as written by Richard Thieme; "Mind Games" and by reading up to page 50 if you dont get it, we cant help you.
https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Games-Richard-Thieme/dp/0938326244
Mind Games, a collection of nineteen stories of brave new worlds and alternate realities Clint Brooks, former Senior Advisor for Homeland Security and Assistant Deputy Director, NSA, says: "Richard Thieme takes us to the edge of cliffs we know are there but rarely visit. He wonderfully weaves life, mystery, and passion through digital and natural worlds with creativity and imagination. Delightful and deeply thought provoking reading." Stories of computer hackers, deception and intelligence, puzzling anomalies, spirituality and mysteries of consciousness, the paranormal, UFOs, alien life forms - in short, everyday life in the 21st century. Play these ""Mind Games" and see why the most common response to Richard Thieme's writing and speaking is: "You made me think."
I do not believe that these hearings are a false flag of fodder to divert attention. They are a slow leak of factual information. I am an UFO experiencer. I want to thank DI for banning another to whom I perceive was a threat to the USA. I dont perceive Grusch as a threat to the USA as I also dont feel that retired FBI Special Agent John Desuza is writing for fame or fortune. He wants the truth out. So look him up and do your dedutive reasoning as can you see any possibly connect to what Desuza is thinking and what Grush has seen? Same with me and I am working with others.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13680478/
Sending my hope and prayers for David Grusch!
Now its 10:10am somewhere in the USA and I havent had a touch of Woo Woo juice! Get it?
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RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - ArMaP - 08-10-2024
(08-10-2024, 09:00 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Hmm. So this story isn't picked up by the "saintly" USA MSM? Odd isnt it?
https://www.loudountimes.com/0local-or-not/1local/ufo-whistleblower-sues-sheriffs-office-over-records-release/article_b24005c4-490e-11ef-97d5-4bc65ae077be.html
DENY Ignorance. Lets assume that DI is repository for like minded individuals for those who seek the truth. So lets put your thinking caps on and ask yourself as to why his medical records were released by the Virgina cops? Why as in whats their coin in this game. I hope he owns the town after this one but the cops are covered as the lawsuit money will possibly come from a black budget "kitty"?
1 - If the information was released by the sheriff's office, then it was not, as far as I understand the way those things work, private medical records, as the sheriff's office would not have them;
2 - Why isn't this being reported by the MSM?
a - If the MSM wants to make Grusch look bad they would love information like this, so they should spread it;
b - If the MSM wants to make Grusch look good they would not talk about this.
So, is the MSM trying to protect Grusch?
a - If they are, why?
b - If they aren't, why did they do not report on this?
I - Ignorance? I doubt it;
II - External orders not to report it that would apply to all the media companies? I doubt it too.
Quote:So to borrow a Q thread from back in the day does the state of Virginia have something in common with either Fort Meade and Langley. Seems to me that based on the release of personal medical records the FEDS are putting the crush on grusch.
The FEDS? The information came from the sheriff's office, right?
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - Waterglass - 08-10-2024
(08-10-2024, 11:01 AM)ArMaP Wrote: 1 - If the information was released by the sheriff's office, then it was not, as far as I understand the way those things work, private medical records, as the sheriff's office would not have them;
2 - Why isn't this being reported by the MSM?
a - If the MSM wants to make Grusch look bad they would love information like this, so they should spread it;
b - If the MSM wants to make Grusch look good they would not talk about this.
So, is the MSM trying to protect Grusch?
a - If they are, why?
b - If they aren't, why did they do not report on this?
I - Ignorance? I doubt it;
II - External orders not to report it that would apply to all the media companies? I doubt it too.
The FEDS? The information came from the sheriff's office, right?
Heres some more since medical records came out and it shouldnt have. Its an obvious smear attempt. They did it to John Lazar, Dr. Steven Greer and many others.
https://uapmed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/UAPMC-Press-Release-For-Immediate-Relase.pdf
"Cut and past in italics"
Intercept
"Plans Leak of David Grusch Personal Medical Information
Online magazine Intercept contacts Intelligence Agent Whistleblower David
Grusch about clinical medical treatment including disclosure of PTSD.
(Washington, DC, August 8, 2023) – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
UAP Medical Coalition (UAPMC) released the following statement:
Despite the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act, decorated
officer David Grusch was notified by Intercept press staff that his medical
information was about to be made public. Included in the health care
information was Grusch’s PTSD diagnosis, suicidal ideation, and temporary
hospitalization in 2014 and 2018. According to Ross Coulthart, Australian news
reporter who broke David Grusch’s story on News Nation, Grusch had disclosed
his struggles with grief and depression in a private interview that was never aired.
At the time, when Grusch received health care for his symptoms from his service
in Afghanistan, the Intelligence Community (IC) and Defense Department
accepted his mental health treatment and Grusch continued to hold his
security clearances."
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - ArMaP - 08-10-2024
(08-10-2024, 11:44 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Heres some more since medical records came out and it shouldnt have. Its an obvious smear attempt. They did it to John Lazar, Dr. Steven Greer and many others.
https://uapmed.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/UAPMC-Press-Release-For-Immediate-Relase.pdf
That doesn't bring anything new.
Did you read the article from The Intercept? There are no medical records in it, the health information on the documents was not given by any doctor, the only possible health-related information came from his wife (she said he was an alcoholic and there's a reference to "poss PTSD. may be diagnosed", which I suppose came from his wife) and some Ashley from "Mental Health" at Cornwall ER "determined she was going to have a magistrate issue a TDO for him".
PS: I suppose you meant "Bob Lazar".
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - Karl12 - 08-10-2024
Hi mate what has he blown the whistle on?
After being groomed for eight months by CIA NOC's Knapp and Corbell what has Grusch actually done?
Other than bring the UFO subject into more disrepute I can't see much.
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - midicon - 08-11-2024
(08-10-2024, 04:40 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Hi mate what has he blown the whistle on?
After being groomed for eight months by CIA NOC's Knapp and Corbell what has Grusch actually done?
Other than bring the UFO subject into more disrepute I can't see much.
When Grusch first appeared he reminded me of Bill Paxton in 'Aliens', I'm not sure why. Perhaps he had similar mannerisms.
Last night I watched two long episodes of 'The Behaviour Panel' foccusing on Grusch. I'm no particular fan of that show but was curious to hear what they made of Grusch, plus it gave me an opportunity to really break down what he was saying.
In essence he said nothing new about anything and his answers were evasive and generic. They did say his body language, intonation and mannerism was bizarre. He came across to me as a useful patsy, a flake or a deliberate obfuscater.
They also said that some of his ramblings were similar to acting or something he had been over many many times.
I have no idea which but he offers nothing of substance and is now happily ensconced in the carnival of eternal disclosure.
Did someone mention Greer? God help us.
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - Waterglass - 08-11-2024
(08-10-2024, 04:21 PM)ArMaP Wrote: That doesn't bring anything new.
Did you read the article from The Intercept? There are no medical records in it, the health information on the documents was not given by any doctor, the only possible health-related information came from his wife (she said he was an alcoholic and there's a reference to "poss PTSD. may be diagnosed", which I suppose came from his wife) and some Ashley from "Mental Health" at Cornwall ER "determined she was going to have a magistrate issue a TDO for him".
PS: I suppose you meant "Bob Lazar".
Yes, Robert Lazar. Heres another on the medical records leak by an FBI agent: Especially at 2:28 pf the video!
‘Not surprised’: Former FBI special agent on possible whistleblower health records leak | NewsNation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdcn-lsYfm8
Many other articles were also out there as published on MSN.COM but one has to dig deep. I didnt find them initially. My opinion is that Grusch is telling the truth and was reading from an approved USA government script. Thats what I got back from my 30+ year FED POC whos a former Secret Service West Wing Special Agent. He watched Grusch videos for several hours until 3:00AM one day.
The above may coincide with Karl's write above relating to George Knapp and Corbell. Thats what I thought when both pushed a UFO event over a miltary installaltion out West in USA ths past year.
The bottom line is that ET has apparenty always been among us, was created by a higher power and man has made contact decades ago. Now they are leaking it out gradually. I offer another 1919 reference as "The Book of the Damned"by Charles Fort as witnesses of Black triangles are mentioned in the late 1880's and another book by Terry Ray, which ;so mentions sightings of Orange objects in the sky in the late 1880's.
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Story-Worldwide-Invasion-Orange/dp/1620064472
(08-10-2024, 04:40 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Hi mate what has he blown the whistle on?
After being groomed for eight months by CIA NOC's Knapp and Corbell what has Grusch actually done?
Other than bring the UFO subject into more disrepute I can't see much.
After being groomed for eight months by CIA NOC's Knapp and Corbell what has Grusch actually done?
Gee Karl and I thought you were above that type of front porch logic.
So whats he supposed to do? Launch nuclear missiles. Can you explan?
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - ArMaP - 08-11-2024
(08-11-2024, 08:28 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Yes, Robert Lazar. Heres another on the medical records leak by an FBI agent: Especially at 2:28 pf the video!
‘Not surprised’: Former FBI special agent on possible whistleblower health records leak | NewsNation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdcn-lsYfm8
There's only one problem with all this that you keep on ignoring: this is not a case of medical records leak, the information came from police reports, not from a doctor or health professional.
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - Waterglass - 08-11-2024
(08-11-2024, 08:51 AM)ArMaP Wrote: There's only one problem with all this that you keep on ignoring: this is not a case of medical records leak, the information came from police reports, not from a doctor or health professional.
So just where are you coming from. His records were made public and they arent supposed to me made public and you seemingly keep ignoring that fact as even a FBI agent states such.
Thats the conspiracy and those in the know want him discredited.
RE: UFO Whistleblower David Grusch sues Sheriff's Office over records release - ArMaP - 08-11-2024
(08-11-2024, 09:52 AM)Waterglass Wrote: So just where are you coming from. His records were made public and they arent supposed to me made public and you seemingly keep ignoring that fact as even a FBI agent states such.
The published records (did you read them?) are not medical records, is this that hard to understand?
If I say to someone that my boss had a slight fever on Friday I am not leaking any medical records because I am not a doctor or any health worker.
Quote:Thats the conspiracy and those in the know want him discredited.
I see two conspiracies here:
1 - The MSM not mentioning the information obtained via that FOIA request. It's part of an ongoing story, why are they keeping quiet about it?
2 - The fact that people keep on saying they are trying to discredit him with leaked medical records that are not medical records. Why are people insisting on something that is not true?
PS: I know that saying that someone, once, was forced into a hospital for possible mental health problems can discredit that person in the eyes of the less informed, but this was not done by the Feds but by the local police, in answer to a FOIA request.
