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UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-15-2024 .Plenty of opinions out there when it comes to UFO origin involving extraterrestrials, metaterrestrials, ultraterrestrials, cryptoterrestrials etc. but this 'woo' thread attempts to deal with the 'UFO/Time' subject and some of the more completely bizarre reports involving temporal distortion / manipulation anomalies - it also attempts to explore the connection between UFOs and time travel (if there is one). Dr Hynek apparently once quipped to Jacques Vallee that 'UFOs may originate from a universe fifteen minutes into our future' and whilst it's thought he was only joking I did find it pretty surprising just how much research has already been conducted (and literature written) on the 'UFO/Time' subject - below are some relevant videos, interviews, articles and documents and also a really interesting quote from Norio that kicked off the idea for the thread in the first place. Quote:• "The UFO phenomenon appears to me as a temporary, paraphysical intrusion into our physical dimension by an unknown intelligence or unknown sentient entitities, paraphysically materializing themselves to a “pre-selected” observer (or a group of observers) and presenting to the observer as a physical extraterrestrial phenomenon and visitation." Thought Tim Swartz's article below was a good intro and brought up a few very intriguing points about the subject - there's also further reading found at the link concerning the Oz factor and vehicle EM interference cases. • UFOs And Time Distortions Quote:Distortions in Time and Space This 'Sightings' clip about Michio Kaku's time travel theories also features a rare appearance by the late Marc Davenport who makes some mighty interesting comments about the UFO subject taken from his book 'Visitors from time'. See 2:30 Quote:• "My hypothesis is that these people who operate these ships - their technology is so advanced that actually figured out a way to artificially warp space-time, the way a black hole does naturally. RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-15-2024 Tenured Professor of Anthropology Dr Michael P Masters also argues in his book 'Identified Flying Objects- An Academic Approach To The UFO Problem' that 'a time travel explanation is preferable to a space travel explanation' and makes some curious observations about topics as varied as time related UFO occupant bipedalism and UFO colour change right through to rotating UFOs bending light cones. See 1:11:11 Quote:Dr. Michael P. Masters is a professor of biological anthropology at Montana Tech in Butte, Montana. He received a Ph.D. in Anthropology from The Ohio State University in 2009, where he specialized in hominin evolutionary anatomy, archaeology, and bio-medicine. Over the years, Dr. Masters has developed a broad academic background, which began studying physics and astronomy at Ohio University in Athens, Ohio, with further undergraduate and graduate coursework in astrobiology, astronomy and physics, along with a perennial review of developments in classical and quantum physics regarding our ever-evolving understanding of time and time travel. In his forthcoming book Identified Flying Objects, Dr. Masters cautiously examines the premise that “UFOs” and “Aliens,” are possibly us... but, from where??? Related Articles: • Quote:Aliens: Us From A Future Time? • Quote:Chrononauts - An Evolutionary Angle by Jeff Barris • Quote:Humans... Among us! by Clayton Rumley • Quote:Time Travelers from the Future by David Anderson, Ph.D. RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-15-2024 As well as those already mentioned there's also been other consistent (and global) UFO characteristics reported over the years like appearing out of nowhere; changing shape; separating and merging together (Link) and, although it sounds completely bonkers, Tim Swartz engages in some interesting speculation below about internal time frames and artificial space-time. Quote:Scientists brave (or foolhardy) enough to try and conduct proper research on the nature of UFOs have been unable to find satisfactory answers as to why UFOs seem to cause time distortions. Past interpretations of Einstein’s physics leave little room for localized time anomalies, unless influenced by a gravitationally massive object such as a black hole. Michio Kaku also pops up again in this Telegraph 'time travel' article and describes Stephen Hawking's absolute reversal of opinion on the subject - also relevant is Hawking's ''Cosmology Protection Conjecture' where he initially denied the possibility of time travel because 'We have not been invaded by hordes of tourists from the future' - bit of a stretch but considering all the great many different UFO shapes (and occupant flavours) reported over the years could he not just be describing the UFO subject? • Prof Michio Kaku on the science behind UFOs and time travel Quote:The embarrassing thing, however, was that no matter how hard physicists tried, they could not find a law to prevent time travel. Apparently, time travel seems to be consistent with the known laws of physics. Unable to find any physical law that makes time travel impossible, Hawking recently changed his mind. He made headlines when he said, 'Time travel may be possible, but it is not practical..' Also an interesting footnote found in the article below where government documents state that famed theoretical physicist and time aficionado John Archibald Wheeler (coiner of the terms 'black hole' and 'worm hole') was actively petitioned by the CIA way back in 1953 to 'attack the flying saucer problem'.. Quote:How anybody can still deny the existence of UFOs when the world’s brightest minds have been actively studying the phenomenon and the evidence available for decades is a mystery. Indeed, intelligence agencies like the CIA are recruiting the world’s top scientists to do so. RE: UFO Time Research. - 727Sky - 06-15-2024 And there is always the remote possibility they are living among us. RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-15-2024 Dude forgot how truly difficult it was to actually watch mainstream news - that newsreader was a complete muppet lol. Thanks for posting the video though and 'cryptoterrestrials' being discussed on Fox News - who would have thought it? Harvard’s 'Human Flourishing Program' study is discussed here although was a bit disappointed that zoologist Ivan Sanderson and futurist Mac Tonnies didn't get a mention. Regarding the time subject would say that Davenport clip is well worth a watch and Masters has certainly been doing quite well on the interview circuit promoting his books - also saw this (scripted?) line being dropped at the UAP hearing fiasco. Quote:• "UFOs could be us from the future." RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-15-2024 As case examples go this incident only involves one witness but did find it quite compelling as a retired 'UFO sceptic' Police Officer was fishing on a river in the UK and witnessed a daylight close range metallic, saucer shaped object sucking up water. Some strange temporal goings on reported and apparently during the sighting his bait maggots pupated into casters (which should have taken 2 days) - after being questioned by the MOD he also started receiving threatening phone calls. • Former Police Officer John Hanson - lesser known historical British UFO reports. See 2:50:00 Quote:"This is the first of a ground-breaking new series compiled by former Police Officer John Hanson and his partner Dawn Holloway, together with David Sankey, a veteran UFO researcher and artist. The multi-part series covers British UFO sightings from 1940 to the present day. This first volume deals with UFO reports from 1940-1959; nineteen tumultuous years during which Britain won a war, lost an empire, buried a king, crowned a queen, and saw a new breed of consumer prosperity rise from the ashes of post-war austerity. People who have followed the UFO subject in any depth will not be surpised to discover that the UFOs encountered during these two decades follow the socio-political changes of the people who witnessed them to a remarkable degree. Haunted Skies is the most ambitious series of books ever attempted in the history of ufology, and will - no doubt - provide a new benchmark in the quality of such publications." RE: UFO Time Research. - 727Sky - 06-15-2024 They Live ? RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-16-2024 Ah yes caught that Dolan vid mate and plenty of similar freaky stories out there - always liked this one lol. 'They Live' is also one of my favourite films. Did you catch what Tonnies had to say in that short clip? It's getting increasingly difficult to find full interviews with the chap but here's one from a while back (also a nice PDF). RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-16-2024 Reckon Professor Michael Swords is a wealth of knowledge on the UFO subject mate and he charts some of the speculative history about 'Time UFOs' (or UFOs as 4th dimensional objects) in his blog post below. Quote:Of course most sensible UFO scholars already knew that. People like Michel and Vallee, even looser thinkers like Fontes and Ribera, were trying to find a path in mathematical approaches. NICAP,APRO, the slowly-evolving Hynek, and non-US researchers like Gosta Rehn in Sweden and David Wightman [ the editor of Uranus] in England, felt that the amassing of piles of individually-strong cases was still the way [and so good case investigation was paramount]. 1963'FSR showed awareness of some of all of that. Ariel school witness Salma Siddick also reported bright flashes and time anomalies during her encounter (apparently "time seemed to have slowed down immensely"). VIDEO Another Ariel school witness Emily Trim also described time anomalies. RE: UFO Time Research. - Karl12 - 06-19-2024 Regarding the freaky 'Oz factor' there's a good article below from Jenny Randles who coined the term and have heard almost identical descriptions from other witnesses of cryptid/paranormal shenanigans. Quote:Witnesses would tell me that they felt a strange sensation prior to the encounter – a sort of mental tingling as if they were aware that something was about to happen. They would even tell me they just had to look up and see what was there – as if it had called to them silently. Then I would be told that during the experience, time seemed to disappear and lose all meaning. It was as if the encounter were happening in a timeless, magical void. Also a nice breakdown on this page: Quote:Oz Factor: |