(09-14-2025, 03:52 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Lot's of very interesting people past & present are suspected to be on the Spectrum.  Such as Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Bobby Fischer, and more.  Would I really want to take away their contributions to this world?  NO.

Key word there is "suspect" And the world would have been a lot better off without mucous, gates, and Steve jobs. Geez what a piece of garbage jobs was. He was a outright thief. And apple still is. He wouldn't even pay child support to his illegitimate son.

And speaking of garbage, mucous offer 42 million starving people a meal. Just to get a bump in his tesla stock. He promised a water filter in ever home in Flint Michigan. I bet you will never guess how good he kept that promise. And never mind what he is doing to the atmosphere with star link. And those planet saving self crashing cars. That contain all 3 parts of the fire triangle, in one container.

I can understand that you would like those kinds of people. But I don't. And there is the problem, democrats want pain and suffering and they really want to destroy the planet. While claiming the exact opposite.

(09-15-2025, 01:39 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Key word there is "suspect" And the world would have been a lot better off without mucous, gates, and Steve jobs. Geez what a piece of garbage jobs was. He was a outright thief. And apple still is. He wouldn't even pay child support to his illegitimate son.

And speaking of garbage, mucous offer 42 million starving people a meal. Just to get a bump in his tesla stock. He promised a water filter in ever home in Flint Michigan. I bet you will never guess how good he kept that promise. And never mind what he is doing to the atmosphere with star link. And those planet saving self crashing cars. That contain all 3 parts of the fire triangle, in one container.

I can understand that you would like those kinds of people. But I don't. And there is the problem, democrats want pain and suffering and they really want to destroy the planet. While claiming the exact opposite.

As is usual in life there is the good and there is the bad and we have to take both in our stride.

"Autistic People That Have Contributed to Society

The contributions of autistic individuals to society are vast and varied. Here are some notable examples:

• Albert Einstein: Known for his groundbreaking theories in physics, Einstein's intense focus and unique problem-solving style suggest he may have exhibited traits associated with autism. 
  
  
  
• Isaac Newton: His systematic thinking and social isolation are characteristics often associated with autism. 
  
  
  
• Charles Darwin: His methodical observations and sensory sensitivities align well with autistic traits. 
  
  
  
• Marie Curie: Her single-minded dedication to her work and communication style may indicate autistic traits. 
  
  
  
• Eminem: As a rapper, songwriter, and record producer, Eminem's contributions to music and culture are significant. 
  
  
  These individuals, among many others, have demonstrated that autistic people can excel in various domains, overcoming challenges to leave a lasting impact on the world. Their stories serve as inspiration and proof that neurodivergent perspectives have always been valuable. 
  

AI source.
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"The concept of autism is relatively new in the grand scheme of human history. It wasn’t until the mid-20th century that autism was first described as a distinct condition. However, was autism always around? The answer, quite simply, is yes. Autism has likely been a part of the human experience for as long as humans have existed, even if it wasn’t recognized or understood as it is today."

Autistic Historical Figures: Recognizing Neurodiversity in History

(09-15-2025, 06:28 AM)quintessentone Wrote: As is usual in life there is the good and there is the bad and we have to take both in our stride.

"Autistic People That Have Contributed to Society

The contributions of autistic individuals to society are vast and varied. Here are some notable examples:

• Albert Einstein: Known for his groundbreaking theories in physics, Einstein's intense focus and unique problem-solving style suggest he may have exhibited traits associated with autism. 
  
  
  
• Isaac Newton: His systematic thinking and social isolation are characteristics often associated with autism. 
  
  
  
• Charles Darwin: His methodical observations and sensory sensitivities align well with autistic traits. 
  
  
  
• Marie Curie: Her single-minded dedication to her work and communication style may indicate autistic traits. 
  
  
  
• Eminem: As a rapper, songwriter, and record producer, Eminem's contributions to music and culture are significant. 
  
  
  These individuals, among many others, have demonstrated that autistic people can excel in various domains, overcoming challenges to leave a lasting impact on the world. Their stories serve as inspiration and proof that neurodivergent perspectives have always been valuable. 
  

AI source.
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"The concept of autism is relatively new in the grand scheme of human history. It wasn’t until the mid-20th century that autism was first described as a distinct condition. However, was autism always around? The answer, quite simply, is yes. Autism has likely been a part of the human experience for as long as humans have existed, even if it wasn’t recognized or understood as it is today."

Autistic Historical Figures: Recognizing Neurodiversity in History

What does any of this have to do with ending birth defects? And how in the world can anyone want to keep birth defects? Democrats are suppose to be all about prevention. That's why they squall and ball if you don't take a vaccine.

(09-15-2025, 06:57 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: What does any of this have to do with ending birth defects? And how in the world can anyone want to keep birth defects? Democrats are suppose to be all about prevention. That's why squall and ball if you don't take a vaccine.

Why categorize it as a birth defect when it has been around since humanity began? I have no idea what Dems are about because I am not one.

(09-15-2025, 06:58 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Why categorize it as a birth defect when it has been around since humanity began? I have no idea what Dems are about because I am not one.

The AI god said likely. to have been around. ""Autism has likely"""

This is the same as the USGS saying there isn't any more earthquakes, we just have more measuring equipment to detect earthquakes, that we could not detect before.

But that isn't how science is suppose to work. We don't know those earth quakes were always there, since we didn't have the equipment to detect them. But some how we know those earthquakes were always there, even though we never detected them.

I don't know what causes autism or how long it's been around. That fact it disables a pretty good number of people from taking care of their self should be reason enough to want it gone. And it clearly wasn't evolutions plan. Since it is survival of the fittest in evolution.

But somehow, someway, some people want to keep it around.

(09-15-2025, 07:12 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: The AI god said likely. to have been around. ""Autism has likely"""

This is the same as the USGS saying there isn't any more earthquakes, we just have more measuring equipment to detect earthquakes, that we could not detect before.

But that isn't how science is suppose to work. We don't know those earth quakes were always there, since we didn't have the equipment to detect them. But some how we know those earthquakes were always there, even though we never detected them.

I don't know what causes autism or how long it's been around. That fact it disables a pretty good number of people from taking care of their self should be reason enough to want it gone. And it clearly wasn't evolutions plan. Since it is survival of the fittest in evolution.

But somehow, someway, some people want to keep it around.

It appears it's nature and natural selection that kept is around.

 "Why Does Autism Still Exist?

New research says autism genes win the competition for survival of the fittest."
"But autism does not work this way. We know that many of the gene variants contributing to autism are not rare, one-time mutations.

Autism results from a combination of genes, hundreds or possibly thousands, and many of them are inherited. These gene variants’ persistence in the human genome implies one crucial fact: they must serve some useful purpose, some purpose that enhances reproductive success."

Why Does Autism Still Exist? | Psychology Today

(09-15-2025, 07:16 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It appears it's nature and natural selection that kept is around.

 "Why Does Autism Still Exist?

New research says autism genes win the competition for survival of the fittest."
"But autism does not work this way. We know that many of the gene variants contributing to autism are not rare, one-time mutations.

Autism results from a combination of genes, hundreds or possibly thousands, and many of them are inherited. These gene variants’ persistence in the human genome implies one crucial fact: they must serve some useful purpose, some purpose that enhances reproductive success."

Why Does Autism Still Exist? | Psychology Today

You know what else is natural? Smallpox, Leprosy, COVID supposedly, And a whole list of things science has been trying to stamp out or has stamped out. 

So now we want to go with the all natural, and still complain people aren't getting vaccinated.

I just can't believe it. I can not understand your train of thought. You said you were not a democrat. But your line of thinking, is just like theirs.

(09-15-2025, 07:36 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: You know what else is natural? Smallpox, Leprosy, COVID supposedly, And a whole list of things science has been trying to stamp out or has stamped out. 

So now we want to go with the all natural, and still complain people aren't getting vaccinated.

I just can't believe it. I can not understand your train of thought. You said you were not a democrat. But your line of thinking, is just like theirs.

Do you mean following and believing in empirical science?

(09-15-2025, 07:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Do you mean following and believing in empirical science?

Empirical my ass. 

Quote:The ComCat earthquake catalog contains an increasing number of earthquakes in recent years--not because there are more earthquakes, but because there are more seismic instruments and they are able to record more earthquakes.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/why-are-we-hav...e-activity

They have no way to know those earthquakes were there before the equipment, since there was no measuring equipment in place. So they skipped the.

• Relying on or derived from observation or experiment."empirical results that supported the hypothesis."
  
• Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment."empirical laws."
  

But I already told you this.

And what I was referring to was your desire to keep birth defects. AKA autism, born in the wrong body, and so on.

(09-15-2025, 12:55 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: And what I was referring to was your desire to keep birth defects. AKA autism, born in the wrong body, and so on.

Human's are not cloned -- there's going to be anomalies in "how the soup is stirred".

Autism is brain wiring -- science is decades off from messing with the brain during gestation -- like I said this reminds me of Josef Mengele.

Autism spectrum -- although not yet named in past generations -- is not new -- and existed before plastic was invented.  Plastic has only been around for a little over 100 years.

Nothing to do with vaccinations, earth quakes, viruses, etc.

There is behavior modification for Autistics -- only to help them navigate the world around them.

Just like any human anomaly -- there's a range of how they are affected.