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This post was last modified: 06-03-2025, 06:05 PM by DontTreadOnMe. 
(06-03-2025, 11:55 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: If you are looking specifically for an antivirus I will suggest AVG or trendmicro as they are the ONLY scanner on virustotal that has ever caught anything i made. Keep in mind it was 20 years ago and I was an amateur but I think that speaks volumes to their abilities to detect signatures that the other ones just didn't detect for some reason. Especially since the one I was using was a super old encoder. Shame on them! Avg has mobile support and is available in Google play store for mobile or android tablets. It is free. Trend micro I don't believe is free but I do love them the most. Avg will tell you you should buy its other crap but the other stuff isn't free. Only the scanner is. I think AVG plus pi-hole will be your best FREE bet.
I used AVG a loooong time ago. I think the reason had to be something like bloat or updating virus signatures.
I probably won't do the pi-hole thing as it seems a bit much for me right now. But, the AVG is doable.
Are you able to schedule scans? Does it run in the background or only when scanning?
Have you ever used UBlock?
Do you consider malware a virus? Because I want something that scans for virus, malware and rootkits if possible.
I did install Malwarebytes free, which is scanning only and not real-time.
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Yes, avg offers both scheduled and real-time protection and also detects rootkits. Also, no, I never used UBLOCK that I recall. Viruses are self replicating types of malware where as malware is any type of malicious software. I specialized in Remote Access Trojans specifically with reverse tcp shells. I currently do security work on the side for a few online stores removing RAT when their employees make mistakes or in the past when they've been hit by mage cart. For some reason this one jewelry store has a very consistent habit of infecting itself with remote access tools from fake hp tech support
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(06-04-2025, 02:52 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Yes, avg offers both scheduled and real-time protection and also detects rootkits. Also, no, I never used UBLOCK that I recall. Viruses are self replicating types of malware where as malware is any type of malicious software. I specialized in Remote Access Trojans specifically with reverse tcp shells. I currently do security work on the side for a few online stores removing RAT when their employees make mistakes or in the past when they've been hit by mage cart. For some reason this one jewelry store has a very consistent habit of infecting itself with remote access tools from fake hp tech support
Thanks for your info
How does one specialize in seeking out malicious crap on devices?
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(06-04-2025, 10:47 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: Thanks for your info 
How does one specialize in seeking out malicious crap on devices?
Word of mouth, big name references, pro bono work, family, small businesses, proven familiarity with analysis, but I think you misunderstood what I meant by specializing in Remote Access Trojans and reverse tcp shells. Removing them is fairly simple. I got my work just by being in the right place at the right time. The specialization was in the writing and understanding of RATs, viral analysis has been around since the beginnings of antivirus programs how else are signature databases updated with the newest signatures. You don't need a degree in information systems security for obtaining a job in that field though im sure a security+ certification would probably suffice since its covered on the test by compTIA. I'd even dare to say that CISSP is the equivalent of a bachelor's degree in ISS and if you can get an OSCP you may as well have a masters and can write your own blank check. That test is the craziest I've ever seen in 2014. Idk what its like now but I imagine its even harder. Back then you had to escape from a sandbox environment and privilege escalate yourself to root and that was just 1 of the many test systems you SSH into. Basically, you're in a virtual machine and have to escape out of it into the actual machine, and then exploit your way from a common user to an admin. If you can find a buffer overflow and corrupt the memory with a bunch of NOPs to JMP you outside a program inside it, you can then use remote code execution to exploit a file manager or something with system user access, from there its possible to jump out into the real machine and then all you need to do is a simple privilege escalation.
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Im not sure if Im allowed to post websites that have classes with career paths that teach you these things so ill PM you the website.
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It depends on how you use your phone and for what.
For typical users with good surfing habits, Android's built-in security is often enough.
But yes, you may need virus and malware protection for an Android device.
Bitdefender Mobile Security is not half bad, but it's a premium package for the real-time protection/VPN.
Kaspersky Mobile Antivirus has a free version which could be considered serviceable.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-04-2025, 10:47 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: Thanks for your info 
How does one specialize in seeking out malicious crap on devices?
Malwarebytes for Android might help there.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/mobile
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-05-2025, 08:09 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Malwarebytes for Android might help there.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/mobile
I tried that first. For some reason, it is not allowing me to add android service to my desktop account, despite the fact Cust Derv says it is allowed.
I threw up my hands and decided to not use the paid plan on the android.
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(06-08-2025, 11:33 AM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: I tried that first. For some reason, it is not allowing me to add android service to my desktop account, despite the fact Cust Derv says it is allowed.
I threw up my hands and decided to not use the paid plan on the android.
Probably other apps that are free that may be able to do the job.
I hate when accounts won't link or have issues with use across multiple devices.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-08-2025, 12:04 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Probably other apps that are free that may be able to do the job.
I hate when accounts won't link or have issues with use across multiple devices.
I've decided to go with the free versions of AVG and Malwarebytes.
I don't think Malwarebytes isn't funning in the background, so there should not be a conflict. Although I am still getting used to AVG....and the tablet TBH.
Totally different from a Kindle Fire.
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