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Communist Terror and Red Famine.
#1
Really do applaud young people learning about Nazi IG Farben atrocities from the last century but really do wonder why young people emerging from college these days seem 'completely unaware' of the absolute carnage and terror of Communist genocides (and manufactured famines).

Not for the faint hearted but there's an extremely thought provoking (and important) video below in which author James Bartholomew goes into some extremely disturbing details about the insane realities of Communist ideologies resulting in countless millions of deaths.






• Communist Terror: The Evil Truths Schools DON'T Teach Our Children.









Quote:On today's #NCF we are joined by journalist and author James Bartholomew of the Museum of Communist Terror and the Foundation for the History of Totalitarianism.

Book discussed: "At Dawn they Came: Soviet Terror & Repression 1917-1953" by Giles Udy.







If one can stomach it then this video also covers 'Nazinsky: Stalin's Cannibal Island' which has actually been described as 'hell itself'.

Apparently the suffering was 'beyond belief' and ordinary folks were just dragged off the streets and sent there in order to 'fill quotas'.








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Quote:In the middle of the Ob River in Siberia lies a forgotten island. Never officially named, it’s known after the nearest village: the hamlet of Nazino. But people who live in this desolate region know the island has another, secret name; a name you will never find on Google Maps. Over seventy years ago, dark things happened on this strip of earth surrounded by icy waters, things so horrifying they were kept hidden for decades. Things which resulted in this nameless place becoming known as Cannibal Island.







Obviously these lunatic regimes develop incrementally and censoring free speech and releasing violent criminals from prison (in order to jail 'political dissidents') is definitely a starting point - as is demonizing small land holders (particularly farmers).

Don't know if we are seeing the beginning stages of it now in England but history is positively littered with populations believing 'it couldn't happen here' so I guess we will see.

Beer
#2
It might depend on where you reside. Here, after the fall of communism, children have been learning a lot about communist atrocities, including Holodomor. I think it's been like this in all the countries affected by communism and the Russian imperialism. The countries that don't have to deal with Russia as a hostile neighbor could be more indifferent to its crimes.

Also Russia was an ally in the war against the Nazis and that could also be a reason why Stalin's regime is treated more leniently than the Third Reich.
#3
horrible what is done in the name of communism!
horrible what is done in the name of capitalism!
horrible what is done in the name of totalitarianism!
horrible what is done in the name of freedom!
horrible what is done.
horrible what is done.

this comment sponsored by the word "whataboutism". sometimes it's true.
#4
(11-23-2024, 09:26 AM)Anna Wrote: It might depend on where you reside. Here, after the fall of communism, children have been learning a lot about communist atrocities, including Holodomor. I think it's been like this in all the countries affected by communism and the Russian imperialism. The countries that don't have to deal with Russia as a hostile neighbor could be more indifferent to its crimes.


Thanks for the post Anna - would say a great many young folks in the West are absolutely clueless (through no fault of their own) about the horrors of this ideology and it's most definitely been 'scrubbed' from the school syllabus.

Did come across this article when searching online (also this one on teaching Holodomor alongside the Holocaust) but reckon most folks are completely unaware of it.

The first video on the thread goes into certain details and I couldn't believe that whilst everyone was 'locked down' starving to death Stalin was actually exporting grain overseas - also wasn't surprised to see Fabian whackjob George Bernard Shaw denying it.

Here's a relevant speech given by Solzhenitsyn in Britain back in 1976.







From 2:50




Beer
#5
(11-23-2024, 12:02 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: horrible what is done in the name of communism!
horrible what is done in the name of capitalism!
horrible what is done in the name of totalitarianism!
horrible what is done in the name of freedom!
horrible what is done.
horrible what is done.


Yes I agree mate and all should be given equal exposure in student education.

Unfortunately it's absolutely not and young people are blissfully unaware of some of the worst 'ideological' (and 'literal') crimes in human history.

Have been reading about Communist China's 'great leap forward' and it is mindblowingly horrific (40 million worked, starved or beaten to death) - you'd think it would be number one on the modern educational syllabus but it is nowhere to be found.

It's been called 'one of the worst catastrophes the world has ever known' but hilariously the Chinese government just calls it the 'Three Years of Difficulty'.

Don't know if you've ever delved into the subject but if you haven't there's some info below.







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China's Great Famine Years 'Were an Era of Cannibalism


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Promotion of the collective rejection of 'old thinking, customs, habits and culture' - that does seem a little familiar these days.

Beer
#6
Gets a little depressing researching these examples but here's 'one of the 20th century's most brutal, little-known atrocities' from the Communist regime of the people's republic of Romania.

'The Pitesti Experiment' - absolutely inhuman brutal purges of 'non conformists' and insane state 're-education' through starvation and torture (both psychological and physical).

It's labelled 'one of the most terrifying and least known atrocities of the twentieth century' so guess my question is why are all these examples so 'unknown' and just who is it 'scrubbing' history when it comes to mainstream education of students?





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Quote:Discover the shocking truth behind Romania’s “House of Horror,” where the Pitesti Experiment shattered souls in one of the 20th century's most brutal, little-known atrocities. Watch now to uncover history's darkest secrets.
#7
Communist bump.
#8
Some days it gets too much and I say "fuck it, I'm an anarcho-apathetic-communitarian".

Power corrupts. Chasing after money is not worthwhile. Knowing your neighbours is cool. Live and let live. Let the sociopaths play their authoritarian games, trying to stop them only makes you one of them. Walk barefoot in the garden.

Communist, Capitalist, ist ist ist, it's all a trap to distract and exploit.
#9
(04-15-2025, 04:26 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: .

Communist, Capitalist, ist ist ist, it's all a trap to distract and exploit.


Truly respect you mate and if everything evil was portrayed to students 'objectively' then fair enough.

Unfortunately it's not (why is that?) and the content of your post smacks of the 'head in the sand' approach which allows this kind of shit to pop up every three generations.

About 50 times all the deaths in WWII - that's what this 'ism' is responsible for - if you don't publicize it (which absolutely nobody does) how can you stop it doing the same thing again?

Doubt you watched any of the videos before posting but one day this ideology might come knocking on your door.

Imagine this where you live.




#10
(05-10-2025, 02:59 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Imagine this where you live.

It's all about what you've run up against the wrong side of. Believe me, it's not constrained to a particular economic approach. Hence, the "anarcho" prefix, not meaning chaotic but rather anti-authoritarian. Which seems to happen in all human power hierarchies, is eventual corruption. Even "ole stodgy", the Anglo-American crypto-elitist bulwark, is cracking pretty badly nowadays. Doubt the new technocoolness will be any better. Communism is merely one of the styles fashionable clothes the monster dresses itself in. For example by most measures of what makes 20th century "Communism" communism, the US Military is quite communist.

Anyway mad respect to you too and keep your powder dry. Smile