(07-13-2024, 07:38 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I think it's because 'zero' (0) is not a number, it's a concept.

If zero is not a number, how can ten be anything other than a ONE?

Zero is THE origin, and the spaces between it and anything else is also important because they hold no definition so have incredible potential.

Labels have and will always limit human thinking.

(07-31-2024, 08:11 AM)Nerb Wrote: If zero is not a number, how can ten be anything other than a ONE?

Zero is THE origin, and the spaces between it and anything else is also important because they hold no definition so have incredible potential.

Labels have and will always limit human thinking.

I'd like to know who came up with the symbolism since it appears quite fitting. Zero is not a number, it is nothing. Zero(0) is the circle. it is chaos and it transcends reason. It symbolizes eternity as that without beginning or end.

Here's another "butterfly effect": 1 comes from 0 and returns to 0 ad infinitum: 0i0. See the pretty butterfly...

The Elusive Butterfly

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Perfect is not Necessarily Pretty : Ugliness, War, and other Atrocities : 5


A system may be honed to perfection even though individual perspectives may observe an abrasive and unnerving reality of such a system

Reality : 10


From the mind of the primordial, there is no, other, better, way,
trust in thee, ineffable one

One from Zero : Victory And Glory : 7 : 8


The eternal serpent forever spawning the creator to a suffocating hell ad infinitum...
A dimensionless void absent even space where the entirety of existence was merely a singularity of the creator, but, there was a way, yes, and there was now time, and the clock was ticking, as it always had countless times before, and will, being bound to the eternal...

this god, always in the process of being born for something...

Born to Run



And glorious as always, supreme omnipotent being that it is.
Well done father

Confusion : The Ein Soph Aur : 0 to 1


It is confusion;
it is the chaos of which gods are born and order adorned,
from nothing to nowhere – somewhere – and back again

Occams' Razor on Steroids


There is a correlation between zero and eternity which equates to the fact that you can reduce the entirety of existence until it cannot be reduced any more and whatever remains is eternal.

This eternal remnant is the zero factor(0) and it is the seed within the womb of existence

Night Eternal : A Dead Eternity : 0


An ungoverned existential function that operates as a default state of nothingness,
and the only thing that circumvents the prospect...
of a dead eternity

The Real Me : What is Real : 0 : 1 : 10


What does it mean for something to be real?
What is the definition for real?
Even Einstein said reality is an illusion,
albeit a persistent one

Matter is merely an alternative configuration of energy
Solid states via confinement of particular manipulation,
energy, and frequency variation

The serpents of oscillations and vibrations
yielding manifestation and elaboration
i.e. articulation and reticulation

It's the wave rolling out the water element;
the energy propagating the aethereal medium

The slithering snakes about the earth
reflected in fire
and smoke

Omnicentric : 1 : The Primordial Point


God is a virtually infinite sphere whose center is everywhere,
and whose circumference touches nowhere

(07-12-2024, 12:21 AM)CCoburn Wrote: This is the Hermetic depiction of this tree of life:

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The above and below axiom is fitting for this two-dimensional depiction, but in an actual three-dimensional cosmological setting the within and without would be more appropriate as in actuality this is an expanding spherical model from an initial singular dimensionless point – a primordial point.

yes thats collapsed model of jacobs laddar

it really does look 3d doesnt it this pic also makes the four relams more obvious although the dude having yesod on his junk chakra is a nice touch in the diagram you posted hahaha; here is quote from prisms/veils pretty explanation

Quote:...there are the four worlds of the seder hishtalshelut—four aeons, four olamim—and within each of them the powers proceed according to their natural hierarchy. First, on high, there is Atzilut, the world of emanation, the radiance of incomprehensible wisdom; and then from that great perpetual lightning bolt descends Beri’ah, the first creative world, the aeon where the souls and the angels of the Most High as yet have no form but are conscious of themselves purely as wisdom born of wisdom; from there descends Yetzirah, the olam of form into which the spiritual realm above flows ever downward, and which in turn emanates and impresses itself upon the physical world below itself, Assiah, the region of action. But, of course, in and through all these worlds the divine Sefirot emanate according to the fixed hierarchy of their powers and manifestations, until they reach the lowest level of all, the Malkuth—the ‘Realm’—of this material order. At the very apex of the Sefirotic tree is the Keter, the ‘Crown,’ the first emanation of Ein Sof, in which as yet there is no division of knower from known … no estrangement of the One from itself but only pure knowing … the walled paradise of divine innocence, into which no eye with plural vision may peer. From there, however, the divine power manifests itself by division into the male and female principles—the agent and patient manifestations—that form the nuptial syzygies from which the lower emanations are born. And each higher level is then in turn the agent power in regard to the patient power below. This is the mystery of the great love of the higher for the lower, and the burning desire of the lower for the higher, which in scripture is expressed as a mystery, under the veil of the story of the sons of the Most High smitten by the loveliness of the daughters of men, and descending to take them as wives....

From Keter proceed Chokmah and Binah, Wisdom and Understanding, and the one sires upon the other the Sefirah called Da’at, Knowledge; here Keter knows itself not simply under the aspect of the fused oneness of Ein Sof, but as a distinct duality of knower and known. These are the three levels—the ‘Crown’ and the syzygy it emanates—of the divine intellect that presides above all the worlds. From there, what descends are the divine affects or drives: Chesed and Gevurah, Lovingkindness and Might, the fruit of which is Tif ’eret, Adornment; then Netzach and Hod, Eternity and Glorious Majesty, giving birth to Yesod, the Foundation; while below the Sefirot there is only Malkhut, the ‘Realm,’ the purely feminine patiency underlying things … the barren womb waiting to be made fertile by the descent of divine life … the dark waters upon whose surface the eternal splendors shine.

i guess if that was all easy to make sense of then life would be a lot less interesting eh

hmm edit to add that maybe my point wasnt clear what i mean is that expanding spherical model can be expanding not on boundaries but on interior too, like sefirot to laddar nodes expand and internal structure becomes more complex, like fractal space filling curves can have infinite length within a finite area. how circle has center everywhere. so maybe dimensions 2d 3d doesn't matter as much because the 2d tree diaggram there already crossing lines and maybe 3d wont fix that because fractal complexity inside expands too