ketchup vs tomato sauce

[Sirius]

Really the question is if you keep it in the fridge after opening?

[argentus]

Yes.   I keep it in the fridge after opening, however I don't really believe that I must do so.   I hasten to add that my ketchup is homemade keto ketchup;  the only difference is instead of sugar I use monkfruit sweetener, and I add a bit of garlic.  Mine also has less salt, but the salt it does have is Redmond Real Salt.  I don't believe it HAS to be refrigerated, but I think there is no harm in doing so, since it is a frequently used condiment that will be stored for a long time.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Most people use all the sauce as soon as they open it, ketchup I keep in the fridge after opening kind of hard to use the entire bottle in one sitting

[UltraBudgie]

Yes in fridge although not very strictly so, you can see if you need to easily enough because it gets little bubbles in it from fermenting, I don't use ketchup very much. Bought a new bottle last week that is no-sugar-added ketchup and it is as good or better imho. Did you know you can get mushroom ketchup that is weird I tried it and it was okay though but not great. Life is better without ketchup.

Oh I meant to add I keep kitchen at about 22° kind of cool so butter doesn't get rancid quickly and I bet ketchup keeps okay at that temperature too but as I said I keep it in the fridge anyway it is more for french fries and children.

And ketchup is from tomatoes which are nightshades which sounds kind of sus doesn't it hmm there's something up with ketchup?

[rickymouse]

We always keep tomato sauce in the fridge after opening.  In a glass bowl with a plastic cover.  It usually is good for about a week, we use it up within that time most times.  We did forget some in the back of the fridge years ago, it was probably in there about three weeks or so, and it got a white fuzz on it...so since then we have always tried to use it up within a week after opening the can.

Same with pizza sauce best taste is within a week.

Ketchup we keep in the fridge too, I guess it is ok to leave it out if you use it up in a reasonable time, but it is just safer to just keep it in the fridge to preserve the flavor.  We usually buy either Woodstock organic ketchup or the Red Gold Ketchup, they have a similar taste to them which we prefer.  The Woodstock organic ketchup seems better for flavor, but is double the price of Red Gold.  So we have those two in stock most times, we only buy  it on good sales and that saves quite a bit, we usually have around six to ten bottles in stock to guarantee good pricing.

Muir Glen tomatoes are great too, but they are fairly expensive even on sale, so we stock up when they are on a really good sale.  We also again are satisfied with the Red gold tomatoes and sauce at two third the price on good sales.  we have a whole shelf of tomato products.  The Woodstock organic pizza sauce is great too, and that is the only brand we buy and of course only on sale.  We make pizzas from scratch about once every two months, so we only usually stock about three or four of those.

We are up to twenty cans of coffee in stock now, the folgers has a coupon at the local stores.  Spend twenty five bucks on the smucker products and get ten bucks off.  The twenty six ounce cans were two for twenty five minus ten bucks....so about seven fifty a can.  That is the highest level of coffee we have had so far, we usually have between around eight to sixteen cans of coffee.  But I do not believe it will go below that seven fifty a can for a while, and half of our stock cans cost below six bucks.  We are drinking ones we paid four ninety nine a can for right now.

We are not coffee horders, we just want to make sure we do not run out of coffee if the SHTF....that is the most important food we need...other than water to make it with and I know where there are springs I can walk to to get that or we can pump it out of our well if needed with a hand pump.  Just think how much company we will have if the SHTF.  we will have friends coming over for coffee every day.

If you stock food, you should keep can goods in a cooler place if you can.  Acid foods taste great six months past the best buy date, and base foods do well a year after that date.  That is just to inform you how to rotate stock if you get good sale prices.  It gives you more leaway and good sales are sometimes many months apart.  After Easter we bought two hams for sixty nine cents a pound, they last about a year at below zero with little change in taste to that time in a frosting freezer, the kind you have to defrost once a year...the frost free freezers suck, three months and the food starts getting an off taste.

Sorry for this off topic last three paragraphs or so, actually most of this is off topic.

We usually don't use much ketchup but now the great grandkids come here every day to catch the bus and get off the bus, they like ketchup a lot, they like it on baked potatoes and even hash browns....but do not like eating tomatoes other than in sauces on spaghetti or pizza, or ketchup and in BBQ sauces if not too spicy.  Now we go through ketchup so fast, we probably could keep it in the cupboard but not changing our habits at our age, it goes in the fridge...we have a whole refrigerator, one big door, no freezer on it.  It is nice to be able to keep lots of things organized in it for a diverse menu...plus three upright 18 to 20 cubic foot freezers going to.  Having a problem this year bringing the stock down to defrost the freezers, got to start giving the kids some stuff, got half a cow coming in a month and a half which takes a whole freezer.

[Sirius]

Fermented food tastes great. Personally I blame sugar/sweeteners for destroying taste buds. We are also spoiled by easy markets and fridges. Hardly anyone harvests their own food.

With crops you get periods of abundance, fermentation is your only option, can't eat all the fruit fast enough. The same with meat and drying or using fat.

Allot of people has digestive issues today, we are quick to blame medications and chemical foods, but our diets has also changed and gut microbes/biomes. We also wash everything, so there is no/less natural yeasts and other microorganisms consumed. Directly effects mood, my stomach certainly rules allot of things

[GENERAL EYES]

Fridge.

When I was a waitress, we woudl leave the ketchup bottles on the tables overnight and that why they have that "unique flavor" at certain resturants when you season your burger or fries. 

I never really minded it, but I prefer the taste when it's been refrigerated to left out all the time.

[Sirius]

Fridge.

When I was a waitress, we woudl leave the ketchup bottles on the tables overnight and that why they have that "unique flavor" at certain resturants when you season your burger or fries. 

I never really minded it, but I prefer the taste when it's been refrigerated to left out all the time.

All the fridge replies is interesting. I fully agree it tastes better. What was interesting to me is that the thought never occurred to me to do it and I know many others. We just grew up not doing it.

[Vermilion]

Ketchup in the fridge, next to five kinds of mustard.
I think it’s just a learned habit because warm or hot ketchup tastes much better.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

My son loves ketchup on everything but for some reason I can't stand it but I love a fresh tomato. I dont like sauce on my meat unless its dairy based for some reason like Béchamel but usually I will not eat sauce but sometimes I marinade with Asian spices or lemon and garlic depending on the meat but I like squash and cabbage and tomato and fish. Fermented and pickled things are yummy. I think my favorite thing is Béchamel it goes so well with almost everything and great over rice and itd just yummy