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[rickymouse]

Like the USA, Europe is dependent on what China makes, so WHO and the past administration turned a blind eye to this.  How did the free world get so dependent on China to make so much things?

I feel that it was a lab leak, and there were other labs all over the world that were doing similar types of gain of function research, should we be doing this in the first place?  Lab leaks are not that uncommon, but with worldwide travel and shipping things all over the world it has increased the ability of these kind of things to become pandemic.  We and even Europe should make more of what their people need in their own countries to keep these kind of things from spreading so much.  And is it smart to have people traveling all over and spreading diseases in the first place?  Seems like those claiming climate change is a problem are still flying all over the world, conservitives are not doing nearly as much of this as liberals.

This is my opinion, and everyone has the right to have opinions, I am not forcing my opinion on anyone, just saying science is messing up this world and technology seems to have gone overboard, I thought technology was supposed to make things simpler, seems like it made everything more complicated.

[sahgwa]

I feel that it was a lab leak, and there were other labs all over the world that were doing similar types of gain of function research, should we be doing this in the first place? 

...just saying science is messing up this world and technology seems to have gone overboard, I thought technology was supposed to make things simpler, seems like it made everything more complicated.

QUESTION: Do you think this was a purposeful lab leak, or do you think it was an accident?

[rickymouse]

QUESTION: Do you think this was a purposeful lab leak, or do you think it was an accident?

I think it was an accident myself.  But there was some concern that the Chinese lab was not following strict protacol in it's creation so it was at more risk of a lab leak from that of some other European labs according to what I read early on about it back when it started.  Now lack of following the directives of the other labs does not mean that the Chinese lab was not secure, only that there was possibly more chance of an escapee of a pathogen.

Why the NIH gave them funding if the lab did not follow the standards of security of other labs is a concern.  The money actually went through side channels to get to that lab, it was not a direct giving of funding, but the NIH should have had some concern about that....but evidently they didn't pay attention to where their research money was being funneled to. 

Lab leaks are not rare, it happens occasionally, the thing is should they be doing this kind of gain of function research.  Evolving pathogens that exceed a thousand years of natural evolution doing this is not wise in my thoughts, but then again, what does a mouse know.

[Shoshanna]

So Fauci was director at NIAID since 1984 but this pardon covers him from Jan 1 2014 to the date of the pardon Jan 19 2025.

Is there a limit on how far back the pardon can go? Is that why it goes to 2014? Or is there something weird about this related to the gain of function stuff maybe starting in 2014?

[Thoughtful3]

I believe that it was a deliberate release. There have been some very strange events leading up to all of this.

https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/fran...-virus-lab

So here we have BioMerieux involved in the building of the WIV biolab. Once it was built French scientists were supposed to be the boots on the ground working with the Chinese scientists, but in 2017 they were persona non gratis. Meanwhile funding continued for Ralph Baric, subgrants continued to the WIV despite the knowledge that there was zero oversight.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/07/28/f...ator-says/

Early on it was reported that the exhaust system was defective and that lights and warning systems for an accidental release were not working either.
All of that would have been caught, because those are the most basic safety features.

Then there is the matter of Stephane Bancel, the CEO of Moderna. 
What are the chances that he worked for BioMerieux?

https://www.biomerieux.com/us/en/journal...ral-0.html

This is all about the $, depopulation agenda and control.

Then there is the matter of what Bancel said at the WEF. that he the told Moderna staff in December 2019 -How about we make a billion doses next year. 
The fact checkers of course will say any vaccine- but Moderna had never successfully manufactured any vaccine prior to the plandemc.
In fact Moderna was very secretive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kVbKHQjpas

And then there is the matter of numbers and dates.

[Thoughtful3]

Shoshanna the reason that Fauci's pardon goes back to January 1, 2014 is because of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa from 2014-2016.

From everything I have researched I consider that outbreak to have been a real world exercise to test how the public would respond to a potential pandemic and how to implement the plandemic. Work out any kinks.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1409858

The WHO declared Ebola to be a Public Health Emergency of International Concern August 8, 2014- 33 weeks after it started.

https://reliefweb.int/disaster/ep-2014-000041-gin

March [23], 2014 the Guinian Ministry of Health confirmed the outbreak. All these numbers mean something to these people.

In the book "Fauci- Expect the Unexpected", which just happened to be pulled from circulation (I snagged a copy) what are the chances that on page 14 Fauci discusses the Ebola outbreak?

This was a dry run. People in the U.S. were very concerned about the potential of spread here because infected health workers were being returned to be treated here. Fauci looked after [N]ina Pham personally. When she recovered he held a media event, was thrilled with all the lights and attention, then he took her to meet Obama. Obama gave her a hug. All staged to be reassuring. 
Contrast this with how Fauci managed Covid.

Now to add to the mix- Billy the Gates.
Page [14] from his thriller "How to Prevent the Next Pandemic."
"In early January 2020, the Gates Foundation team we had set up to monitor outbreaks after the Ebola scare was tracking the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus we now know as the one that causes COVID-19.
On January [23]..."

Gates needed the Ebola outbreak so that he could set up a surveillance system there.

Also there is the drug Remdesivir, more accurately named "Run Death is Near." This was initially tested on Ebola patients, killing more than the disease itself.

RF Kennedy in his book "The Real Anthony Fauci" discusses the Fauci/ Gates drug of choice which was used to treat patients ill with Covid.
His coverage begins on Page 69.
The CDC initially only approved Remdesivir and corticosteroid (used together) .  "Remdesivir causes extreme toxicity to lungs and kidneys..."
"For several month, we were the only country treating people with a drug proven to be lethal."

Page 70. "...Fauci's 2019 Ebola study proved that Remdesivir, by day 3, 4, and 5 caused acute kidney failure..."


Fauci in his book "On Call " goes into some real details about the Ebola outbreak that raises lots of red flags.
" Unlike prior outbreaks, this one struck densely, populated cities."
"The WHO was severely criticized for its delay in realizing the seriousness and potentially catastrophic nature of the outbreak and its sluggishness in addressing it."

Remdesivir harmed patients more than it helped and then they turned around and used it during Covid.

Now what are the chances that Sylvia Burwell, who had come from the Gates Foundation, became HHS secretary at the start of Covid?.

Ugly isn't it?

[RickyD]

Like the USA, Europe is dependent on what China makes, so WHO and the past administration turned a blind eye to this.  How did the free world get so dependent on China to make so much things?

I feel that it was a lab leak, and there were other labs all over the world that were doing similar types of gain of function research, should we be doing this in the first place?  Lab leaks are not that uncommon, but with worldwide travel and shipping things all over the world it has increased the ability of these kind of things to become pandemic.  We and even Europe should make more of what their people need in their own countries to keep these kind of things from spreading so much.  And is it smart to have people traveling all over and spreading diseases in the first place?  Seems like those claiming climate change is a problem are still flying all over the world, conservitives are not doing nearly as much of this as liberals.

This is my opinion, and everyone has the right to have opinions, I am not forcing my opinion on anyone, just saying science is messing up this world and technology seems to have gone overboard, I thought technology was supposed to make things simpler, seems like it made everything more complicated.

The reason these things are not done in our more civilized countries is because its outlawed here. So we pay countries that either have totalitarian governments or very corrupt ones to do it for us. Go figure the standards and safety protocols are low and stuff like this happens. In China's specific case...weren't we mid trade war with them around the time this all happened? Funny timing that a country we are a direct adversary with...that we also funded to research dangerous viruses into all kinds of even more dangerous viruses...happens to have a lab leak of said virus. Almost like they knew we couldn't acknowledge an attack if there was one because then we are implicit not only in the release of said virus but that the research we funded was illegal and we were circumventing the law by funding China to do said research. Like a group of top officals were sitting around thinking of what could be done to prevent a trade war they most assuredly would lose without some kind of intervention. Now we see factories already slowing or shutting down...the big ones are retooling to make and sell products domestically for cheaper than they can sell in the US and those smaller companies who did sell domestically are being pushed out and shutting down. Its almost like they knew all those years ago that it would end up exactly like this...

[KKLoco]

I gotta admit, I originally bypassed this thread due to its title. Being BEYOND sick of even hearing the word covid.....

I'm glad I finally clicked on it. THIS is news I was not expecting and am very happy!

I called BS on the scamdemic in February of 2020 and wrote a thread on it on ATS, before all the shit really hit the fan. The title of it was 'You Cannot Escape the Coronavirus - Get Over It'. The gist of it was ' DON'T LOCK DOWN THE ECONOMY DAMNIT'.

I HATE being lied to. Transparency is everything!

[KKLoco]

So Fauci was director at NIAID since 1984 but this pardon covers him from Jan 1 2014 to the date of the pardon Jan 19 2025.

Is there a limit on how far back the pardon can go? Is that why it goes to 2014? Or is there something weird about this related to the gain of function stuff maybe starting in 2014?

Pretty sure pardons aren't valid when it comes to genocide.

[StoutBroux]

It isn't a Trump propaganda piece.  It's a Trump presentation of information on the Corona Virus/Covid 19 pandemic, it's particulars and the players which was researched and created under Joe Biden, the President of the United States.

Note near the bottom of the 'cover pages' the link for the report which was presented and completed December 4, 2024 when Joe Biden was the President of the United States.  Also as noted below, information that pertains to the authors of the information/data which was made available to scrutiny and research under the Biden administration:

"Content on this page sourced from the House Oversight Committee website, a Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability in the U.S. House of Representatives." 

And here's the link for the report, all 557 pages, completed and presented December 4, 2024:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/up...RT-ANS.pdf