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#41
(08-07-2025, 11:37 AM)RuchardHurt Wrote: Let's say you decide to go on a wild 5 day backpacking misadventure all by your lonesome. You stumble across a situation that one the many outdoorsman books you are carrying just doesn't cover. Let's say this situation is a life or death situation. 
I bet you would be very pleased to know I have just the solution. I haven't got a name for this yet but it is a little piece of equipment the size of a flip phone. Solar recharging mini LLM that is water proof and shock resistant. Very specifically trained to assist with everything a survivalist could need.
You are never going to have pocket sized AI. Currently AI needs massive amounts of space, power and water. Unless you use musk star link satellite to connect to it, in the wilderness. Which by the way we don't know the damage he is doing with his planned 45 thousand satellites with a short lifespan, which the FCC is in charge of not the EPA. So if you have a link to the internet, chances are you are not very long in getting help.  
Quote:I deploy highly advanced "AI' daily and my power draw from all of these is that of a home theater, less at times.
So you do this without being connected to the internet? Just off a regular PC? As far as I know. When everyone else uses AI. It goes through a data center. Where and how are you storing all the information the AI needs to operate? What did you train it on? 
Quote:The hallucinations you speak of have been around long before AI. It is just a hickup in its understanding.
AI is not thinking it does not have a understanding. It is not a life form. It is controlled through its temperature, to reduce its hallucinations. Which it has neither. It has program parameters and it has mistakes in it calculations or word prediction. Just like you have never had plastic cycling. In any meaningful way. Due to the fact all plastics are different. You have to have the exact same kind of plastic in order to recycle it.

Suckerburg, mucous, goober, and the rest of the tech giants are lying to you.

Do your remember when google hit the web browser market? I do, and I remember what their marketing was. Turns out it was all a lie. Big surprise.
#42
(08-07-2025, 01:34 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Suckerburg, mucous, goober, and the rest of the tech giants are lying to you.

Do your remember when google hit the web browser market? I do, and I remember what their marketing was. Turns out it was all a lie. Big surprise.


Right on - did you ever catch this presentation about the complete bullshit 'origin stories' of Silicon Valley?

Pretty thought provoking stuff and apparently it's rather difficult to find a major Silicon Valley company NOT connected to the US military intelligence agencies.

Cheers.
#43
(08-07-2025, 02:07 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Right on - did you ever catch this presentation about the complete bullshit 'origin stories' of Silicon Valley?

Pretty thought provoking stuff and apparently it's rather difficult to find a major Silicon Valley company NOT connected to the US military intelligence agencies.

Cheers.

It's been world domination since before we broke the USSR. But when reagan spent them into collapse. It was kicked into overdrive.

And people like suckerburg and mucous are happy to help. It's been called surveillance capitalism. And the government is happy to let them do it. Since they benefit from it as much as they do. It really is like 1984. China is already living it. Thanks to the great and powerful AI. 

I got a feeling it won't be long before our incognito 1984 becomes out right 1984.
#44
(08-07-2025, 01:34 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: You are never going to have pocket sized AI. Currently AI needs massive amounts of space, power and water. Unless you use musk star link satellite to connect to it, in the wilderness. Which by the way we don't know the damage he is doing with his planned 45 thousand satellites with a short lifespan, which the FCC is in charge of not the EPA. So if you have a link to the internet, chances are you are not very long in getting help.  
So you do this without being connected to the internet? Just off a regular PC? As far as I know. When everyone else uses AI. It goes through a data center. Where and how are you storing all the information the AI needs to operate? What did you train it on? 
AI is not thinking it does not have a understanding. It is not a life form. It is controlled through its temperature, to reduce its hallucinations. Which it has neither. It has program parameters and it has mistakes in it calculations or word prediction. Just like you have never had plastic cycling. In any meaningful way. Due to the fact all plastics are different. You have to have the exact same kind of plastic in order to recycle it.

Suckerburg, mucous, goober, and the rest of the tech giants are lying to you.

Do your remember when google hit the web browser market? I do, and I remember what their marketing was. Turns out it was all a lie. Big surprise.

You should really do your research before going around claiming to know anything about AI.
And yes I can and did deploy AI on 100's of SoC's that do not need internet nor water.
Google local AI
#45
(08-07-2025, 07:25 PM)RuchardHurt Wrote: You should really do your research before going around claiming to know anything about AI.
And yes I can and did deploy AI on 100's of SoC's that do not need internet nor water.
Google local AI

Well since you know so much. You should be more than happy to share your knowledge, so the rest of the idiot billionaires can learn from your low energy AI.

In stead of telling me to research it. You made the claim. So you can back it up. That is generally how it works. I can feed the entire world on a fish and a loaf of bread, but now if you want some proof. Ermm that is a different story
#46
(08-07-2025, 07:35 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Well since you know so much. You should be more than happy to share your knowledge, so the rest of the idiot billionaires can learn from your low energy AI.

In stead of telling me to research it. You made the claim. So you can back it up. That is generally how it works. I can feed the entire world on a fish and a loaf of bread, but now if you want some proof. Ermm that is a different story

These massive data center you hear so much about have multiple purposes. But for the sake of this conversation I will explain 2 of those high energy use reasons. So one reason for the massive amount of GPU's that are used in those is to train billions of data sets in a fast manner, the other is so they can run a neural network AI. That kind of AI would be something like GROK or Gemini or all the other you read about. Those AI models require the internet to run and a whole bunch of power and obviously all that juice needs to be cooled.
I train AI models that have gone through that multibillion point data training already, I just refine mine to work as I need them to work and I keep my training very secret as does any person that trains AI.
I run many different AI models locally for personal and business uses. I don't want or need my AI on my home server to be "plugged in". Anyone can run a local AI on pretty much anything up to and including small ARM chips. Those are in pretty much all electronics.

I hope that helps clear up a few things. AI can be scary if you let it and it can be a gamer changer if used not as a toy.
#47
(08-07-2025, 08:03 PM)RuchardHurt Wrote: I hope that helps clear up a few things. AI can be scary if you let it and it can be a gamer changer if used not as a toy.

No that doesn't clear anything up.
#48
(08-07-2025, 09:03 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: No that doesn't clear anything up.

AI does not need to be exclusively connected to the internet to run nor does it need massive cooler stations to operate. And if you would like you can download and run a local LLM on your laptop or PC and not have the internet to interact with it. It takes just a couple of minutes to install and just a few more to grab one of the hundreds of AI models to run locally on your PC or server or even phone.
#49



Not surprised by some of the standards Meta has set with its chat bot interactions with children.
#50



With the culture going on in Meta, kinda get how the Australian government does want to do something with the online child abuse going on. The deadline for implementation of new online age verification system approaches in the coming months...

As how the Australian government want to do nothing on the 28, what is the real aim with an online ID?

What goes on online is a reflection of what goes on in the real world. It is going to be a tough job growing up as a kid in this world with its emerging digital haze. Don't want too much information too quick, some things are hard to forget. As for keeping all kids of social media until 16, it will give them a late start compared to other nations. Can see some reason for it with all the predators out there, yet it goes on behind closed doors.

Expect most kids do get bullied or pushed around at some stage, some more than others. Expect the robots will follow the legislation, for the most partish. As for how it all works out with so many competing forces going on, time will tell.