What supplements do you take and why?

[tellmethesecrets]

Since I got paranoid about heart/clots after my three COVID vaccines, I've been taking a right cocktail of supplements (listed below) and I'm just wondering if a) they're making any difference and b) if they're doing more harm than good!! 

I think every time I've seen something claiming to counteract the vaccine effects, I've shamelessly added it to my daily dose:

K2
Evening primrose oil
Cod liver oil
CoenzymeQ10
B12
Ginkgo Baloba
B complex
D
C & zinc
Biotin, Zinc and Selenium
Turmeric
Magnesium (I get restless legs)
Dandelion root (I also get water retention especially around certain times of the month, but I'm pretty sure these don't make a difference!)

To top it off, I now have the Elevate collagen daily in my morning coffee which I claims to contain a lot of the vitamins listed above!

[angelchemuel]

Hi,
That's a lot of supplements, and I'm surmising you are taking some of them for ladie's monthly issues and not as prophylactics for heart/clots after the 3 shots.
Over the years I've had clients "taking this..... for that, and this.... just in case" some with lists longer than yours.
In every single case, they are overdosing and their body mechanisms start going out of kilter, particularly the liver, and getting confused as to what it actually needs. Particularly when it comes to minerals (and some vitamins) are not water soluble and will get stored up.
Slowly other "symptoms" start happening and people take another supplement "in case it's that".
Please go see a nutritionist or Kinesiologist.
Rainbows
Jane

[LightAngel]

Sometimes the strongest medicine is a mind that feels safe.

You can change your food etc, but nothing transforms your health like an inner world that isn't at war with itself.

By the way, the only medicine I take is one vitamin pill.

[David64]

Unless you are running marathons or are a world class athlete, you don't need all that. 

Eat a good balanced diet and if you have concerns, go see your Doctor and have them do blood work. That'll tell you if you're low on anything and then go from there. Don't just dump a bunch of stuff in your body it probably doesn't need.

[quintessentone]

Since I got paranoid about heart/clots after my three COVID vaccines, I've been taking a right cocktail of supplements (listed below) and I'm just wondering if a) they're making any difference and b) if they're doing more harm than good!! 

I think every time I've seen something claiming to counteract the vaccine effects, I've shamelessly added it to my daily dose:

K2
Evening primrose oil
Cod liver oil
CoenzymeQ10
B12
Ginkgo Baloba
B complex
D
C & zinc
Biotin, Zinc and Selenium
Turmeric
Magnesium (I get restless legs)
Dandelion root (I also get water retention especially around certain times of the month, but I'm pretty sure these don't make a difference!)

To top it off, I now have the Elevate collagen daily in my morning coffee which I claims to contain a lot of the vitamins listed above!

The dietician I spoke with said our food does not meet our daily nutritional requirements or we would have to eat massive amounts of various types of food to get the daily requirements.

As for heart health, she advised eating oatmeal, which I informed her now contains forever chemicals, which she didn't like hearing. Perhaps the organic oatmeal may be better, I don't know, I'm not an oatmeal fan?

Also taking low dose aspirin for heart conditions or perceived/paranoic heart conditions can be harmful, so that is why you should not be taking any heart health supplements if you don't have any heart/circulatory or other health issues and the same applies to all other supplements. Learn more about how to self-diagnose a healthy heart in your body to alleviate your paranoia, hopefully.

I try to get the daily requirements using both food and supplements but mostly from food, such as Calcium which I can get my daily requirements from large mugs of cafe lattes in the morning (with Collagen) (and lots of 'em) and ice cream for dessert.

Collagen should only be taken for 5 month periods then have a break, and the same applies to herbal remedies depending on the herb, some are for 2 weeks others can have a longer treatment and that is why it is crucial to do your research.

I know what my body lacks and I take supplements accordingly, but not every day, I space the timing out with some once a week, others every other day, some during the Winter, such as taking more Vit. D more often.

Getting bloodwork gives you an idea of what you may be lacking.

There are many calculators online which can give you an idea if your food is providing you with what your body needs, however we are all different but the recommended daily intakes are usually for average sized men, so women keep that in mind when determining dosage.

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"The relationship between calcium and heart health depends heavily on the source of intake, with dietary calcium generally showing protective benefits while calcium supplements have been linked to increased cardiovascular risks in some studies.  Coronary artery calcium (CAC) scans detect calcified plaque in heart arteries, where higher scores indicate a significantly increased risk of heart attack and stroke, though this calcium buildup is primarily a marker of existing disease rather than a direct result of dietary intake" (LLM)

Calcium Calculator:

https://www.uab.edu/shp/toneyourbones/st...calculator

[rickymouse]

I take a small taurine and a specific multi-mineral or multivitamin combination tablet every day to control my epilepsy, it allows me to not be so strict on the anti-epileptic diet I used to eat to control the seizures.   Because of the diet or combinations to control the epilepsy, I have to take a smaller glutamine once every day too. 

I have lots of different supplements I take when my diet gets lopsided, got pretty used to identifying what they do, I do take a B complex, sometimes, but the multivitimin I take has a decent B complex, so I do not have to take the B complex if I take that.  I also take an NAC at night if my risk of a seizure goes up from eating the wrong food, taurine actually seems to make it harder to get to sleep, NAC makes me get a decent sleep.

My diet and method of action of the supplements is from hacking methods of actions of anti-epileptic meds which I am very intolerant too, four different classes of them I am severely intolerant too, because I can not metabolize them to excrete them correctly, they were poisoning me.

Taurine and NAC, along with onions and garlic can thin the blood, so if I take the NAC at night, I do not take a baby aspirin.  I also have some thistle pills, they also reduce clotting factors, and if I eat a lot of onions, I don't need the aspirin, and also don't take any meds that have some anti-coagulant factors or blood thinner properties.

I have been doing this for years, and have identified things and learned from interactions of food and supplements and researched what is going on.  Most people don't have the time to do that.

Always remember, if you take many supplements, they can reduce uptaking nutrients from food because the body does not sense it needs the nutrients.  You usually do not need high doses of anything if you eat reasonably nutritious foods.

I have learned a lot from listening to other people too, and I will buy a bottle of a supplement after analyzing the information and evidence and run a trial on myself....just because it works on others does not mean it will work on you...everyone eats different and has different aspects of metabolism.  It only costs me about a buck and a quarter a day for my supplements, that is less than forty bucks a month to treat my epilepsy and special needs to cancel out the side effects of the diet needed to control my epilepsy.  Supplements give me a little extra selection of food choices to control the seizure risk

Actually the diet to control the epilepsy is cheaper than eating the way I used to eat before I got it, but it takes lime to make the foods all from scratch.  Also, not many restaurants have foods that are diet friendly for epilepsy...other than a fish dinner or eggs with limpu rye bread toasted with butter.  Carbs fuel seizures in me, so breads can be a problem.  A modified keto diet is somewhat close to ok, and blueberries or strawberries seem to be the best choice of fruits to keep it from being an issue. 

I could never survive in a nursing home with this epilepsy, so I am trying to stay healthy so I never need to go to one.  avoiding food and meds that blocks choline seems to be important.  I also have to watch tyramines in my diet.

I am not complaining, my thinking is still good, and I have energy to do things at seventy, but I am still sick of all the snow this year, seems like I am always shoveling and brushing off the car and scraping the windows.  I may not be able to lift as much weight as I used to when I was a construction worker, but I can still do more than most people twenty years younger than me.

[angelchemuel]

The dietician I spoke with said our food does not meet our daily nutritional requirements or we would have to eat massive amounts of various types of food to get the daily requirements.

As for heart health, she advised eating oatmeal, which I informed her now contains forever chemicals, which she didn't like hearing. Perhaps the organic oatmeal may be better, I don't know, I'm not an oatmeal fan?

Also taking low dose aspirin for heart conditions or perceived/paranoic heart conditions can be harmful, so that is why you should not be taking any heart health supplements if you don't have any heart/circulatory or other health issues and the same applies to all other supplements. Learn more about how to self-diagnose a healthy heart in your body to alleviate your paranoia, hopefully.

I try to get the daily requirements using both food and supplements but mostly from food, such as Calcium which I can get my daily requirements from large mugs of cafe lattes in the morning (with Collagen) (and lots of 'em) and ice cream for dessert.

Collagen should only be taken for 5 month periods then have a break, and the same applies to herbal remedies depending on the herb, some are for 2 weeks others can have a longer treatment and that is why it is crucial to do your research.

I know what my body lacks and I take supplements accordingly, but not every day, I space the timing out with some once a week, others every other day, some during the Winter, such as taking more Vit. D more often.

Getting bloodwork gives you an idea of what you may be lacking.

There are many calculators online which can give you an idea if your food is providing you with what your body needs, however we are all different but the recommended daily intakes are usually for average sized men, so women keep that in mind when determining dosage.

---

"The relationship between calcium and heart health depends heavily on the source of intake, with dietary calcium generally showing protective benefits while calcium supplements have been linked to increased cardiovascular risks in some studies.  Coronary artery calcium (CAC) scans detect calcified plaque in heart arteries, where higher scores indicate a significantly increased risk of heart attack and stroke, though this calcium buildup is primarily a marker of existing disease rather than a direct result of dietary intake" (LLM)

Calcium Calculator:

https://www.uab.edu/shp/toneyourbones/st...calculator

Did you know a portion of broccoli for example, has more calcium in it than a pint of full fat milk and is far more easily digestible in vegetable than dairy form? Something I learnt as my mother was Rh- and too much calcium can be an issue for that blood group.
Rainbows
Jane

[quintessentone]

Did you know a portion of broccoli for example, has more calcium in it than a pint of full fat milk and is far more easily digestible in vegetable than dairy form? Something I learnt as my mother was Rh- and too much calcium can be an issue for that blood group.
Rainbows
Jane

Thank you for taking the time and effort to reply.

There certainly is a lot of information that needs to be learned about nutrition and supplementation. I am Rh- and recently had a root canal where the dentist said the calcification in front of a root was like 'a stone in his way that he had to chip away at' (to my elongated torture time), so that proves what you say.

I did the Calcium calculator and for my age group, I believe I am at the exact dosage per day or a little under. The problem with figuring out dosage also involves one's age. The elderly have issues with decreased organ function and/or nutrient absorption issues with certain organs...for instance:

"Potassium supplements are particularly dangerous for the elderly because age-related decline in kidney function makes it difficult for older adults to remove excess potassium from the blood, leading to a dangerous buildup known as hyperkalemia.  This condition can cause severe gastrointestinal issues like stomach pain, nausea, and diarrhea, but in critical cases, it triggers life-threatening heart palpitations, chest pain, or even a heart attack."

https://www.weekand.com/healthy-living/a...006016.php

As with age, so now I should be considering blood type and who knows what else plays into this to figure out what to take, what not to take, and how much?

[angelchemuel]

Thank you for taking the time and effort to reply.

There certainly is a lot of information that needs to be learned about nutrition and supplementation. I am Rh- and recently had a root canal where the dentist said the calcification in front of a root was like 'a stone in his way that he had to chip away at' (to my elongated torture time), so that proves what you say.

I did the Calcium calculator and for my age group, I believe I am at the exact dosage per day or a little under. The problem with figuring out dosage also involves one's age. The elderly have issues with decreased organ function and/or nutrient absorption issues with certain organs...for instance:

"Potassium supplements are particularly dangerous for the elderly because age-related decline in kidney function makes it difficult for older adults to remove excess potassium from the blood, leading to a dangerous buildup known as hyperkalemia.  This condition can cause severe gastrointestinal issues like stomach pain, nausea, and diarrhea, but in critical cases, it triggers life-threatening heart palpitations, chest pain, or even a heart attack."

https://www.weekand.com/healthy-living/a...006016.php

As with age, so now I should be considering blood type and who knows what else plays into this to figure out what to take, what not to take, and how much?

Yes, if you are Rh- the ball park changes, please be very aware of this. For example, mum's iron level's would regularly drop as she got older. My dad was also Rh-, but he never lived long enough to see how his blood group would affect him.
In the case of my mum, blood work said she was low in calcium. Doctor put her on calcium supplements. She goes back a month later and her calcium levels had dropped even further! So, mum call's me and says doc wanted to double her dose. Clearly that didn't make sense! I asked what were her calcium tablets. Turns out they were animal based. I said she needed to get vegetarian ones. Doc couldn't see what difference that would make, but played along and gave her a scrip for vegetarian calcium. Month later, calcium levels back within range. She had great pleasure 'educating' the doc about her blood group.
There is always 'kidney stress' with Rh- group. Too much animal calcium for this blood group can create kidney stones for example.
Rainbows
Jane

[ChiefD]

I take

Multivitamin
Chromium picolinate (helps with blood sugar as I am prediabetic)
Vitamin K2 (recommended by my VA nurse practitioner)
Krill oil (joint support and comfort, recommended by knee doctor)
Tumeric (supports inflammation response)
Coenzyme Q10 (supports heart health)
Osteo Bi-flex (contains glucosamine, chondroitin & MSM for joint health and comfort, recommended by pharmacist)
Garlic (immune system and cholesterol support)
Cinnamon (helps with blood sugar)

I used to take a lot more than that. As a 61 yo prediabetic in good health and menopausal, many of these supplements help me out in common sense ways. I stay away from soda, mainly drink unflavored sparkling water and skim milk. I'm working on the food I eat, trying to incorporate more vegetables. I don't like fruit. I also eat a lot of eggs. I love them, and they have good nutrients in them. I try to avoid red meat, but like to eat chicken and fish. I get a lot of exercise in my crossing guard job, walk about 4-5 miles a day 5 days a week. I never smoked, and occasionally have beer, wine, or a THC beverage. I have good sleep hygiene and have adequate energy every day. I don't do those energy drinks or 5 hour energy. People get too used to those and then are drinking them all the time. I have enough issues with my blood pressure (on meds) without that. It's not any one thing, it's a combination of doing things in moderation.