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Well...the list - NO IT ISN'T - YouTuber lies!
#11
That's what's invited though.

For clarification, I just made that up. Just wanted a type of conspiracy accusation that would come from Trump releasing a likely redacted list with mostly democrats left on it.

It would get immediately reversed and focus squarely on "that one 16 year old employeed at Mar-A-Lago."

He doesn't need direct affiliation.. just fly on his jet and having a groomed abuse victim on his property at one time would be enough.

Then people would post that interview where he said he usually prefers women his daughter's age, which further vets and reignites his "pussy grabbing creepy old man" status. It's a character vetting more powerful than any of his loyalists could dissuade (to the left).

Tactics will not change and we still have free speech. Trump does something like that, which will be seen as hypocritical by his detractors, and they will reuse old accusations.

Maybe try to turn it on him by trying to draw the most direct and cognizant connection possible between Epstein hookers and Trump..

Not that necessarily, but the bias fine tooth comb on Trump's executive integrity is returning.

And if we are going to move past that and see what a red controlled government can do to make our lives better it's best not to piss of the 119th minority party or give them another 4 years of character discrepancies or perceived hypocrisy to impeach him for repeatedly, and likely regain the House at the midterms after 2 years of circus.

Like putting a hamster in a wheel. Not moving on either, unless part of moving on is publicly denigrating a Nixon-esque list of everyone that got in his way.

Retaliation will reignite more of the same bullshit that burns me out. I'd rather see if this red carpet laid down for productive sweeping legislation can make my life better.

Like, don't be George Clooney in Dusk Till Dawn... dont be such an asshole you can't realize when you've won and go on from there... and watch for vampires.
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#12
This "sword of righteous accusation" of abuse reminds me of an ongoing discussion in another thread, about magical contagion. Commit vile crimes, then take the blade used to do so and give it to the people's "righteous hero", to brandish clumsily and flail ineffectually at the unknown. Hit the wrong target, or none at all. By contagion, this misdirection will flow acausally and reinforce concealment of the original crimes. Weave the judiciously untethered threads of popular outrage into a glove for the hidden hand.

Never mind. Magic is crazy.
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#13
What's the difference between "lesser black magic" and a public relations department?

That's kinda everything right now. Its a project-a-villain-o-rama. How much of it is like the obsessed person calling out all the predators with a terabyte of their own incrimination is anyone's guess.
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#14
https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/IMG_4730.webp

Just saying…

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#15
(11-11-2024, 12:52 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: That's what's invited though.

For clarification, I just made that up. Just wanted a type of conspiracy accusation that would come from Trump releasing a likely redacted list with mostly democrats left on it.

It would get immediately reversed and focus squarely on "that one 16 year old employeed at Mar-A-Lago."

He doesn't need direct affiliation.. just fly on his jet and having a groomed abuse victim on his property at one time would be enough.

Then people would post that interview where he said he usually prefers women his daughter's age, which further vets and reignites his "pussy grabbing creepy old man" status. It's a character vetting more powerful than any of his loyalists could dissuade (to the left).

Tactics will not change and we still have free speech. Trump does something like that, which will be seen as hypocritical by his detractors, and they will reuse old accusations.

Maybe try to turn it on him by trying to draw the most direct and cognizant connection possible between Epstein hookers and Trump..

Not that necessarily, but the bias fine tooth comb on Trump's executive integrity is returning.

And if we are going to move past that and see what a red controlled government can do to make our lives better it's best not to piss of the 119th minority party or give them another 4 years of character discrepancies or perceived hypocrisy to impeach him for repeatedly, and likely regain the House at the midterms after 2 years of circus.

Like putting a hamster in a wheel. Not moving on either, unless part of moving on is publicly denigrating a Nixon-esque list of everyone that got in his way.

Retaliation will reignite more of the same bullshit that burns me out. I'd rather see if this red carpet laid down for productive sweeping legislation can make my life better.

Like, don't be George Clooney in Dusk Till Dawn... dont be such an asshole you can't realize when you've won and go on from there... and watch for vampires.

I’d really like to itemize all my replies to this, IP. However, all my mind can come to is — Stop overthinking everything.
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#16
Newsweek put out this rather small list, I thought Id add it here than make a whole new thread.
 
Quote: Among the celebrities named in the filing are:
  • Stevie J (Steven Aaron Jordan), a music producer and television personality. According to court documents Jones alleges Combs used access to Stevie J and his knowledge of Jones' admiration of Stevie J "to groom and entice Mr. Jones to engage in homosexual acts."
  • A redacted name of a Philadelphia rapper who dated Nicki Minaj
  • A Grammy Award-winning R&B singer who had trouble with law enforcement after assaulting a Bajan billionaire, whose name was also redacted.
  • Yung Miami, who was not labeled as a celebrity in the filing, but a relative of Yung Miami is named. According to court documents, the cousin of Yung Miami is accused of "groping Mr. Jones."
  • Prince Harry, according to court documents, Jones alleges Comb's associates gained access to "international dignitaries like British Royal, Prince Harry."
  • Cassie Ventura, a singer and dancer who's previous lawsuit against Combs related to allegations of sexual abuse was mentioned.
  • Bishop T.D. Jakes, is not accused of anything in the lawsuit. According to the court documents, Jones alleges that Combs "planned to leverage his relationship with Bishop T.D. Jakes to soften the impact on his public image of Cassie Ventura's lawsuit."
  • Georgia Mass Choir, was named in the filing in relation to his professional engagements with Jones and is not accused of any wrongdoing or involvement related to the alleged misconduct.
  • Donald Lawrence, songwriter and music producer. Lawrence was named in the filing in relation to his professional engagements with Jones and is not accused of any wrongdoing or involvement related to the alleged misconduct.
  • The Clark Sisters, were also named in relation to professional engagements with Jones and is not accused of any wrongdoing or involvement related to the alleged misconduct.
  • Smokie Norful was named in relation to professional engagements with Jones and is not accused of any wrongdoing or involvement related to the alleged misconduct.
  • Faheem Muhammad was named as according to court documents, Combs' head of security, "had the power to make people and problems disappear."
  • DeForrest Taylor, according to court documents, Taylor was named as Combs allegedly asked Jones and Taylor for a hundred-dollar bill "because he wanted them
    to do cocaine with him."
  • Jose Cruz was named as the court document alleges he is "the gatekeeper to all of Mr. Combs recordings."

https://www.newsweek.com/celebrities-nam...it-1883698

I would think there would be a whole lot more?
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#17
I haven't done a deep dive into all the prosecutorial antics yet,

But here is a link with some more detail than News Week's list

From Vulture.com: A Guide to the Many Lawsuits Against Diddy

There are 26 cases in that report... some of them are "J. Doe" complainants...
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