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Trump says talks with Canada off after ad invokes Reagan as free-trader
#1
I know this is nothing new, an advertiser using words out of context to push a product/agenda. 

I think this bears mentioning because this particular ad was evidently paid for by the Ontario government and the words Reagan spoke were specifically chosen out of context to twist the meaning into almost the complete opposite of what he was trying to convey at the time.

Trump says talks with Canada off after ad invokes Reagan as free-trader
 
Quote:Ontario Premier Doug Ford said this week that the ad from his provincial government, more than a week old, had caught the Republican president's attention.

The ad's voiceover consists of Reagan, a hero to many U.S. Republicans, criticizing tariffs on foreign goods while saying they cause job losses and trade wars.

"I heard that the president heard our ad. I'm sure he wasn't too happy," Ford said on Tuesday.

The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation said the ad used "selective audio and video", and that it was examining legal options.

"The ad misrepresents the Presidential Radio Address, (by Reagan in 1987), and the Government of Ontario did not seek nor receive permission to use and edit the remarks," a Foundation statement said.

The video uses five complete sentences from the five-minute weekly address, spliced together out of sequence.

"When someone says, `Let's impose tariffs on foreign imports,' it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs," Reagan says. "And sometimes for a short while it works - but only for a short time."

He also says: "...over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer", and that the result of trade wars is that "Markets shrink and collapse; businesses and industries shut down; and millions of people lose their jobs."

The ad does not, however, mention that Reagan was using the address to explain that tariffs imposed on Japan by his administration should be seen as a sadly unavoidable exception to his basic belief in free trade as the key to prosperity.

The Canadian government had no immediate comment.

I know there is no "truth in advertising" but when you deliberately twist something out of context to mean almost the exact opposite, and especially when you do it to someone's words after they have passed on, I personally find this reprehensible. 

But that is my opinion, what is your take?
#2
Politics is reprehensible. 

Too much BS from all sides. 

Trump is pissed off because someone lied? 


Tecate
If it’s hot, wet and sticky and it’s not yours, don’t touch it!
#3
Okay yeah that's BS, and Canada really shouldn't be so uppity if they want to get one state per province, rather than the whole thing being the 51st.

But this bit caught my eye: "the Government of Ontario did not seek nor receive permission to use and edit the remarks".

Do they need to? Isn't what a President says publicly in the public domain?
#4
(10-24-2025, 11:45 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Okay yeah that's BS, and Canada really shouldn't be so uppity if they want to get one state per province, rather than the whole thing being the 51st.

But this bit caught my eye: "the Government of Ontario did not seek nor receive permission to use and edit the remarks".

Do they need to? Isn't what a President says publicly in the public domain?



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#5
Ha! Uppity is expecting Canadians to want to become citizens of the United States. I think we should incorporate Eastern Oregon, Idaho and Montana into Canada. 

I know that Western Canadians don’t have the ties to the USA quite like the Eastern Canadian provinces. We don’t have the population density and are far freer and laid back.

Canada would have a conservative government if it weren’t for Quebec and Ontario’s liberal policies.

Meh, my 2 pesos….


Tecate
If it’s hot, wet and sticky and it’s not yours, don’t touch it!
#6
(10-24-2025, 01:09 PM)Tecate Wrote: Ha! Uppity is expecting Canadians to want to become citizens of the United States. I think we should incorporate Eastern Oregon, Idaho and Montana into Canada. 

I know that Western Canadians don’t have the ties to the USA quite like the Eastern Canadian provinces. We don’t have the population density and are far freer and laid back.

Canada would have a conservative government if it weren’t for Quebec and Ontario’s liberal policies.

Meh, my 2 pesos….


Tecate

We like Quebec and Ontario's Frenchy liberal policies. 

So, what about a massive trade?

The USA gets the lovely province of Alberta, including the very conservative Calgary and relatively moderate Edmonton.  

USA sends California to Canada with a pick up option for Oregon and Washington....

Scratch that...

I got a better idea.  Canada gets the liberal part of West coast, Keeps Western BC, retains Ontario, Quebec, NF, NL, amd NC. Canada also receives Minnesota (with buy option), Illinois, The UP, and New England Northeast of Pennsylvania, also including the prospects Maryland, Deleware, and New Jersey..

The rest like Alberta, Manitoba, Yukon, NT, Nunavut becomes part of The USA along with existing territory. 

 I made a map.

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#7
(10-24-2025, 01:55 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote:  I made a map.

84°40′ or Fight. ¹

Wink2
#8
(10-24-2025, 02:02 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: 84°40′ or Fight. ¹

Wink2

Je ne sais pas ce que cela signifie, mais je vais quand meme pratiquer le francais.
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#9
(10-24-2025, 02:10 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Je ne sais pas ce que cela signifie, mais je vais quand meme pratiquer le francais.

Here, allow me to sodomize flies for you¹:

"Je ne sais pas ce que cela signifie, mais je vais quand même pratiquer le français."


¹ enculer les mouches
#10
I'm still too American to acknowledge diacritical (or tonal?) marks in other languages.

Except Pinyin, because you kind of have to.
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