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(11-15-2025, 12:57 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Trumps done so many things to put the people first.  Closing the border is a HUGE win for the American people, rolling back tyrannical policies of the CDC which removed their power over the people.  No more shutting down the country with a manufactured crisis.   Deportations of illegals is also a huge win, they’ve directly affected my wages in the construction industry for decades. Removing taxpayer funds that was funding illegals in every way.  Removing taxpayer funds for crap like lbgt studies in Africa and Sesame Street in Afghanistan.  Making our highways safer by finally enforcing CDL rules and removing illegal truck drivers that can’t speak English.  Removing murderers, terrorist, drug and human traffickers and other criminasl from our cities and country.  They’ve rescued children that were trafficked thru the border under the Biden administration…….  Should I keep going?

I could come up with more things Trump has done for the citizens of this country if needed. But you keep screaming Trumps doing nothing for the people, it’s a very disingenuous and ignorant stance to take not to mention embarrassing.   

I believe your hatred for trump has taken away your ability to ever see anything good he’s done or doing.  Seriously, we’re on two different planets if you say he’s done nothing for the people in this country when he’s done more IMO than any president we’ve had for decades.  It’s just never enough is it?

No, none of that's going to be enough for me

If he's playing a role in shielding traffickers and rapists from facing justice, then he's criminal 

He's corrupt
(11-15-2025, 12:57 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Trumps done so many things to put the people first.  ....   It’s just never enough is it?


Not to detract from your opinion, but I also have some concerns in this manner of "border closing."

At some point is there a "mission accomplished" sign going up?

Or is this our own little "forever war?"

Are we going to see ICE manning decline due to ever diminishing illegal entries?
Or are going to be left with a paramilitary agency... for use ... where exactly?


There are questions... and they are not spurious, or intended to despoil someone's
reputation ... (and yes they would be despoiled by that intent, if so.)

In this case success means what it's supposed to...
not how it fits within a politicians narrative... even if he is my President.

Too many lessons to ignore when adopting warm faithful loyalty...
So many times, so many people, have discovered that the politician is not the man.

I offer only retrospective judgements, and they are mostly about how
focusing on an individual is exactly the diversionary reason for which they exist.
None of the are so much "in control" but "surfing a wave."

All follow some set of 'orders'... that much seems evident.
(11-15-2025, 09:13 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Who's this 'Bubba' that seems to making the headlines all over the internet now in relation to Trump and Epstein??

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/bubba.jpg]

https://newrepublic.com/post/203212/jeff...utin-bubba

Just a warning: There are fake email documents floating all over the internet that look real as hell, I’ve seen them on FB.   Like the one claiming trump was with Epstein Thanksgiving 2017 when he was actually in Mar a logo with his family. Democrats deleted the email after they were called on it.  Epstein was a convicted sex offender at that time.  I doubt Trump in his first Thanksgiving in office would go spend it with Epstein  Lol  

Just saying be careful believing everything you see just because it look real.  
Disclaimer, I’m not saying the one you posted is fake.  JS
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(11-15-2025, 01:25 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Not to detract from your opinion, but I also have some concerns in this manner of "border closing."

At some point is there a "mission accomplished" sign going up?

Or is this our own little "forever war?"

Are we going to see ICE manning decline due to ever diminishing illegal entries?
Or are going to be left with a paramilitary agency... for use ... where exactly?


There are questions... and they are not spurious, or intended to despoil someone's
reputation ... (and yes they would be despoiled by that intent, if so.)

In this case success means what it's supposed to...
not how it fits within a politicians narrative... even if he is my President.

Too many lessons to ignore when adopting warm faithful loyalty...
So many times, so many people, have discovered that the politician is not the man.

I offer only retrospective judgements, and they are mostly about how
focusing on an individual is exactly the diversionary reason for which they exist.
None of the are so much "in control" but "surfing a wave."

All follow some set of 'orders'... that much seems evident.


I’m sure it will remain closed until the Democrats get back in power and reverse Trumps border policy.  Rest assured we still take in a million immigrants a year “legally”

As far as ICE, we’ve got about 20 million illegals (at least)in the country, which personally I think is closer to 30+ million.  I don’t think ICE is going to run out of people to deport anytime soon. So………..IDK when they’ll say “our work is done here” , it’s kind of endless and why the last administration really screwed us. The last thing we needed was up to 15k unvetted illegals entering our country per day.  

If people don’t like what they’re seeing deportation wise…ask a democrat why they layed that burden on the American taxpayers?  They were the main source of creating the problem in the first place.
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(11-15-2025, 01:23 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: No, none of that's going to be enough for me

If he's playing a role in shielding traffickers and rapists from facing justice, then he's criminal 

He's corrupt


Figures.   Your “if” in your post and it’s a big “if” is something you might want to contemplate before crucifying him for something you have zero proof of.  Like I said, I feel your hatred for him has blinded you to some degree.   But you keep doing you….
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(11-15-2025, 02:11 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Figures.   Your “if” in your post and it’s a big “if” is something you might want to contemplate before crucifying him for something you have zero proof of.  Like I said, I feel your hatred for him has blinded you to some degree.   But you keep doing you….


The "if" is there because I know what my gut tells me but I'll hold off for tangible evidence before I hammer the final nail

If you're 100 % confident that he's totally clean and you're supporting him with a clear conscience, kudos to you
You do you

Or maybe you simply don't care 

But he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me. Not anymore 
My good will got all used up during his first term and now it's gone

He's just another traitor to toss on the trash heap

I do hate him
Immensely 
That hatred fuels me
(11-15-2025, 02:30 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The "if" is there because I know what my gut tells me but I'll hold off for tangible evidence before I hammer the final nail

If you're 100 % confident that he's totally clean and you're supporting him with a clear conscience, kudos to you
You do you

Or maybe you simply don't care 

But he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me. Not anymore 
My good will got all used up during his first term and now it's gone

He's just another traitor to toss on the trash heap

I do hate him
Immensely 
That hatred fuels me



Your self professed hate has compromised you.
Sounds troubling.
Go touch some grass or kick a tree.
Come back when you’re able to have a rational adult conversation and we can talk about tangible evidence.
(11-15-2025, 01:14 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: You forgot ending eight wars, no inflation etc ....

You forgot that he did help facilitate and broker the ending of some of these wars,  IDK about 8 but at least he’s trying and doing, unlike the last administration which did nothing, kind of like your government.    Hell Kamala went to Russia to stop the war and a week or so later Russia invaded Ukraine.  But who knows right?

Our inflation was 2.9% in October, below a national average of 3.29% since 1914, it was up to a high of 9.1% under Biden, worst in 48 years if memory serves me correctly.   So yes inflation has gone way down.  Cost of groceries in my state have come down, not much but some.  Gas is almost down to $2.00 a gl.

Im honestly not sure what you’re talking about???
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(11-15-2025, 02:30 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The "if" is there because I know what my gut tells me but I'll hold off for tangible evidence before I hammer the final nail

If you're 100 % confident that he's totally clean and you're supporting him with a clear conscience, kudos to you
You do you

Or maybe you simply don't care 

But he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from me. Not anymore 
My good will got all used up during his first term and now it's gone

He's just another traitor to toss on the trash heap

I do hate him
Immensely 
That hatred fuels me

I’ve never said Trump was clean, ever, but I’m also not going to persecute someone with no proof.  So, until I see some proof and not hearsay, I say he’s innocent until proven guilty.  That is the way it works isn’t it or do we just go straight to hanging in your world?

Take a deep breath!
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(11-15-2025, 02:38 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Your self professed hate has compromised you.
Sounds troubling.
Go touch some grass or kick a tree.
Come back when you’re able to have a rational adult conversation and we can talk about tangible evidence.

Lol

Are you of all people attempting to lecture me about hate ?

Do you possess any self awareness at all



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