Why Aren't These Roof Doors Locked

[DontTreadOnMe]

This is crazy.
In this day and age......
Why does any public building have access to the roof?   Aren't they worried about liability?
People jumping?  Throwing things?  Shooting people? Partying?

Why aren't there cameras up there as well?

[UltraBudgie]

Fire code probably. Perhaps no alarms so staff can take smoke breaks?

And why should there be cameras? Unless you're saying there should be cameras everywhere.

[annonentity]

If there are fires on the lower levels , You have only one way to go or get trapped. At least you can jump ,it's a better option than burning to death.

[DontTreadOnMe]

Fire code probably. Perhaps no alarms so staff can take smoke breaks?

And why should there be cameras? Unless you're saying there should be cameras everywhere.

Seriously.   Where I worked it was locked.  It was an urban setting.

Yes, if it is locked there should be a motion detector camera on those roofs.

[UltraBudgie]

Seriously.   Where I worked it was locked.  It was an urban setting.

Yes, if it is locked there should be a motion detector camera on those roofs.

Just looked at this, apparently requiring access to allowed to the roof is a local-code decision, but the wider code is that roof access either be kept locked, or if allowed, that re-entry from roof to building be permitted (no one-way doors). Implementations vary and depend on fire evacuation plans, building height, residential status, and plans for rooftop access by firefighters must be made. Hey, the more you know... :)

Camera I guess are a local security decision but I imagine with how cheap they are now that it's a matter of 'why not'. Although I suppose the security tenet applies -- the more you have to monitor, the less well monitored it will be. Hey, maybe Palantir can help with that!

I still think the 'smoke break' theory applies. After all, Utah.

[BeyondKnowledge]

This is crazy.
In this day and age......
Why does any public building have access to the roof?   Aren't they worried about liability?
People jumping?  Throwing things?  Shooting people? Partying?

Why aren't there cameras up there as well?

I would say insurance liability for the most part.

You want everyone to have access to dangerous and often deadly equipment and areas of a building that they have no understanding of? Railings are required to be installed in some areas just to go up there for maintenance of air conditioners. There are often exposed power lines up there. Many have been killed falling through skylights much less over the side of the building. 

In almost all cases, it would be too expensive to rebuild the roof areas to be safe for occupancy even occasionally. It would be like just building another floor and then you have the same problem of roof access from that floor.

Most rooves are not designed to be walked on unless you know where not to step.

You obviously have never worked on the roof of a building to ask such a question.

[DontTreadOnMe]

I would say insurance liability for the most part.

You want everyone to have access to dangerous and often deadly equipment and areas of a building that they have no understanding of? Railings are required to be installed in some areas just to go up there for maintenance of air conditioners. There are often exposed power lines up there. Many have been killed falling through skylights much less over the side of the building. 

In almost all cases, it would be too expensive to rebuild the roof areas to be safe for occupancy even occasionally. It would be like just building another floor and then you have the same problem of roof access from that floor.

Most rooves are not designed to be walked on unless you know where not to step.

You obviously have never worked on the roof of a building to ask such a question.

Duh!
I understand the need for maintenance to have access....common sense.

But not the garden-variety public who neither maintain nor work in the building.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Duh!
I understand the need for maintenance to have access....common sense.

But not the garden-variety public who neither maintain nor work in the building.

At the school I worked at maintenance would leave the hatch unlocked but it needed a ladder to reach it and it was secured in a locked maintenance closet. Complacency probably was key here. When I would watch the CCTV kids would try to get in the closet all the time. This guy seemed to know ahead of time it would not be secured.

[Vermilion]

At the school I worked at maintenance would leave the hatch unlocked but it needed a ladder to reach it and it was secured in a locked maintenance closet. Complacency probably was key here. When I would watch the CCTV kids would try to get in the closet all the time. This guy seemed to know ahead of time it would not be secured.

The shooter was at the school over 3 hours before the event started and he also had a screwdriver fwiw.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

The shooter was at the school over 3 hours before the event started and he also had a screwdriver fwiw.

I wonder if they will release cctv from the school