Existence

[Maxmars]

I suspect that in the final analysis... it's the other way around.

But that's just a feeling. 

[CCoburn]

Either consciousness derives from matter or the other way round.

 

I suspect that in the final analysis... it's the other way around.

But that's just a feeling. 

Off the cuff I suppose an argument could be made for either; not that any "argument" transcending the laws of physics and mathematics would make a whole lot of sense.

In my own thinking I've been dancing around the idea that "consciousness" is a non-physical non-spatial entity; although it may occupy a single point in space, it is not composed of such, and eliminating the spatial parameter doesn't leave much room for the material.

One might slightly elevate the above and posit that consciousness is a product of some quantum phenomenon e.g. an atom of some special element from which it emanates or perhaps even the double helix molecular structure of DNA which is sufficient to define individuality. It may be ridiculously close to a zero space/zero mass parameter but fall just slightly short of that.

If one regresses to the universal origin and attempts to put the ambiguous God in a somewhat practical perspective and leverages from the renowned expansion theories and that God is of the mind not the material which aligns somewhat with the zero-volume parameter of a primordial singularity veering away from any substantial materialistic view resulting less in a "consciousness from matter" hypothesis.

On the other hand, one might assert that the "math" is still good and does indeed still work from this non-physical existence and furthermore that it does in fact state the origin is of "infinite density", however, I myself am not really seeing this "God' as some "infinitely dense" thing, but that's just me.

Or lastly, some might not even equate any universal origin with any type of God or harbor any belief in these expansion theories and toss the entire hypothesis out the window.

These ideas appear to crossover from most rational ways of thinking so ultimately it seems to just boil down to what an individual chooses to believe although it does occur to me that some "ideas" present themselves as more "believable" than others.