12-16-2024, 04:12 PM
I feel "jibber jabber" is a vastly underrated phrase. Perhaps that's more apt.
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Social conscience is a key, I think you've sounded a good note here. I remember as a very young child becoming aware of the perception of others of my actions. It set up an internalized feedback loop, a second-guessing of myself, that I think is what leads to having an introverted monologue. A redirection of immediate action into thinking, internally vocalizing, instead of the pure acting in the moment of a child. It's a long road back to that. The idea of that voice being the superego, a voice of the personal ego as a member of the larger group, is interesting, because that matches with my experience. Of course the moral compass thing applies, too, and sometimes I have little voices of remaining unresolved trauma pop up like devilish magnets trying to spin my compass, derail my more intentional self. I've welcomed most of them back into the flock, but some remain, and it is very easy to consider them 'intrustive' or externalize them as plaguing spirits or such. It takes actually facing the absolute to know the difference, I guess, although maybe as you say someone born and raised in an optimal pristine environment would be different in that regard. Although looking even at the elite and most privileged in this would who might enjoy that, it seems that may not be the case, and everything warps somehow. Perhaps the key to bloodline legacies is knowing how to consistently mould such warping intergenerationally.
Isn't the "call of the void" when driving fun? "Just steer off the road, it would only take a wrist twitch" or "I bet I could get the car across that guardrail and off the bridge". Memento mori, thanks for the reminder, shadow! Hahaha I say -- someday, if only it were that easy, void my friend.
Recently I've been examining the song lyrics that are stuck in my head. Sometimes when I have no inner monologue, I'll get refrains going in a loop. That's annoying. Anyone dove into processing those? I wonder if it's the time and place of the songs, the life-memories they are tagged to, that are what persists, or perhaps unnoticed significance in the lyrics, or maybe even just the rhythmic theme? As I have not heard it said, "if you meet the music on the road, kill it". Classical seems to be a way to go, pure tonal emotion patterns, but even better is the om at various vibrational levels that LightAngel and quintessentone were mentioning in the other thread.
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(12-16-2024, 05:57 AM)CCoburn Wrote: I think in theory the little/inner voice often acts as moral compass and 'whispers' accordingly, but it could be somewhat compromised due to past trauma e.g. hinting that you shouldn't when maybe you should and vice versa.
An individual nurtured and continuing on in some optimal pristine environment might harbor an inner voice that is less wary than it would otherwise be and perhaps less wary than it should be in this day and age.
In a way the voice resembles the "ego" in the Freudian model of the psyche. Except that instead of attempting to model/filter your actions according to observance by a judgmental society (superego) will do so instead solely for your own good although lines between "ego" and inner voice may become somewhat grayed or nonexistent at times given the circumstances. The inner voice may guide you against actions that might harm others – conscience.
In my particular case. Sometimes it 'attempts' diversion from certain driving compulsions when I'm on the road, and at times I ignore it because I'd rather have some fun and briefly hang on the edge, or it may tell me that a piece I've just written could use a little reworking/restructuring.
My existence is moderately isolated and non-invasive, so my little voice will likely be optional much of the time, but for others could be the difference between life and death.
On the edit tags:
I see those "edit tags" as an unwanted blemish and will occasionally briefly argue with the little voice as to whether or not one is deserving in correcting some minor triviality i.e. negligible. At times that annoying little voice will nag at me and I end up giving in and fixing it five or ten minutes later – OCD.
Social conscience is a key, I think you've sounded a good note here. I remember as a very young child becoming aware of the perception of others of my actions. It set up an internalized feedback loop, a second-guessing of myself, that I think is what leads to having an introverted monologue. A redirection of immediate action into thinking, internally vocalizing, instead of the pure acting in the moment of a child. It's a long road back to that. The idea of that voice being the superego, a voice of the personal ego as a member of the larger group, is interesting, because that matches with my experience. Of course the moral compass thing applies, too, and sometimes I have little voices of remaining unresolved trauma pop up like devilish magnets trying to spin my compass, derail my more intentional self. I've welcomed most of them back into the flock, but some remain, and it is very easy to consider them 'intrustive' or externalize them as plaguing spirits or such. It takes actually facing the absolute to know the difference, I guess, although maybe as you say someone born and raised in an optimal pristine environment would be different in that regard. Although looking even at the elite and most privileged in this would who might enjoy that, it seems that may not be the case, and everything warps somehow. Perhaps the key to bloodline legacies is knowing how to consistently mould such warping intergenerationally.
Isn't the "call of the void" when driving fun? "Just steer off the road, it would only take a wrist twitch" or "I bet I could get the car across that guardrail and off the bridge". Memento mori, thanks for the reminder, shadow! Hahaha I say -- someday, if only it were that easy, void my friend.
Recently I've been examining the song lyrics that are stuck in my head. Sometimes when I have no inner monologue, I'll get refrains going in a loop. That's annoying. Anyone dove into processing those? I wonder if it's the time and place of the songs, the life-memories they are tagged to, that are what persists, or perhaps unnoticed significance in the lyrics, or maybe even just the rhythmic theme? As I have not heard it said, "if you meet the music on the road, kill it". Classical seems to be a way to go, pure tonal emotion patterns, but even better is the om at various vibrational levels that LightAngel and quintessentone were mentioning in the other thread.
"I cannot give you what you deny yourself. Look for solutions from within." - Kai Opaka