The Dendera 'Light bulb'

[sahgwa]

I am sure most of us here are familiar with the carvings at the temple of Dendera in Egypt that seem to show a human figure holding a giant tube with what looks like a snake in it.



Some fanciful explanations have been put forth for explaining what these people were trying to portray.
My favourite which I heard from ol Whitley Strieber was ' a soul vacuum' for the gods or other humans, or maybe unscrupulous magicians to steal peoples souls or control them.

The more common interpretation of the glyph in esoteric circles is that of a light bulb, for illumination.

It just so happens that there was a recent Dreamland show, which illustrates this is a topic Mr Streiber weas still interested in years later, with a man named William Sosa, who has built what he believes to be a working replica of what the Egyptians were depicting in their carvings.
The tube is vacuum sealed and contains gas which is ignited and can be focussed like a snake, and reacts due to electrostatic electricity to the presence of human hands, like a snake running away. Much like a Tesla coil.
Here is the show:




 
There's a lot of chatter there but it is interesting. Also espouses his electric universe theory counter to the Big Bang. (they could both be right? ) 
Here is a video of the device in action:



 

What do you think? Was this an ancient method for illuminating interiors?  Notably no smoke residue or burnt oil evidence has been found inside the tombs for making the carvings.

[midicon]

That video is an hour long. It might be more instructive to watch this seven minute one and save a lot of time.

[sahgwa]

That video is an hour long. It might be more instructive to watch this seven minute one and save a lot of time.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bza0fP_adxA&t=20s]

Hi!
Wondering if you were able to see Mr Sosas device in action?
Do you have any thoughts of your own you can type up for us? 
Thanks for your participation!

I see your archaeologist reads the inscription and says this is a depiction of Horus' ka emitting out of the lotus flower, sort of his astral or energy body flowing out.
Could not the Egyptians be couching their knowledge of physics in terms of what archaeologistics (who love to say everything is a ritual object) call religious thought?
The astral, or perhaps electrical body of 'Horus' who represents the sun (plasma) is flowing out.

IF you take the time to view Mr Sosa's video, it is a kind of plasma physics.

Hmmmmm!! COINCIDENCES? :)

[Maxmars]

I have discovered that "celebrities" who debunk things are not adding to any conversations... just trying to stop them.

There has always been an element of "convenience" to the narratives accompanying artifacts and tales... it seems always to limit any speculation to those celebrities and no one else.  It's a cloister thing....

I have absolutely no doubt that some tried and true dogmatic understandings we have of Egyptology are no less an imaginative characterization than the ideas they routinely 'debunk,' since it wasn't their narrative... it cannot be allowed to have standing value... it must not be corrected, it must be attacked.

That 'manner' of institutional scholarship is poison.... yet it rules the day, doesn't it?

[sahgwa]

I have discovered that "celebrities" who debunk things are not adding to any conversations... just trying to stop them.

There has always been an element of "convenience" to the narratives accompanying artifacts and tales... it seems always to limit any speculation to those celebrities and no one else.  It's a cloister thing....

I have absolutely no doubt that some tried and true dogmatic understandings we have of Egyptology are no less an imaginative characterization than the ideas they routinely 'debunk,' since it wasn't their narrative... it cannot be allowed to have standing value... it must not be corrected, it must be attacked.

That 'manner' of institutional scholarship is poison.... yet it rules the day, doesn't it?

The all caps use of the word DEBUNKED is itself a big egoistic give-away.

God forms, spiritual iconography, much like myth and mythical symbols, are to many an encoding of ancient knowledge in both physics and metaphysics. 

The Egyptians used hieroglyphs not just as phonemes of sound, nor as physical representations of the exact images, but also as concepts and 'keys' to higher knowledge. It is a living text, where the words fly and transmute.

[BeyondKnowledge]

The all caps use of the word DEBUNKED is itself a big egoistic give-away.

God forms, spiritual iconography, much like myth and mythical symbols, are to many an encoding of ancient knowledge in both physics and metaphysics. 

The Egyptians used hieroglyphs not just as phonemes of sound, nor as physical representations of the exact images, but also as concepts and 'keys' to higher knowledge. It is a living text, where the words fly and transmute.

I fear much knowledge is lost simply by not understanding what was written by ancient people. And yes, once decyphered, a symbol is not likely to change meaning simply because the whole naritive would change. Like spelling, it was fluid before the printing press was invented but now words are stuck in place because someone said so.

An egyptologist says it has to fit the meaning we gave it because we gave it that meaning or all else is wrong. 

Why could all else not be wrong is what I want to know?

[midicon]

Hi!
Wondering if you were able to see Mr Sosas device in action?
Do you have any thoughts of your own you can type up for us? 
Thanks for your participation!

I see your archaeologist reads the inscription and says this is a depiction of Horus' ka emitting out of the lotus flower, sort of his astral or energy body flowing out.
Could not the Egyptians be couching their knowledge of physics in terms of what archaeologistics (who love to say everything is a ritual object) call religious thought?
The astral, or perhaps electrical body of 'Horus' who represents the sun (plasma) is flowing out.

IF you take the time to view Mr Sosa's video, it is a kind of plasma physics.

Hmmmmm!! COINCIDENCES? :)

I watched it and it's plausible that they could somehow have made such a device. I'm not entirely convinced that it could be used for any real practical purpose, other than as something to impress or wonder at, particularly as priests showing priestly power.

It was interesting!

[BeTheGoddess]

Check out Black Athena if  you have not yet red it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Athena

Its a bridge worth crossing if not already

[sahgwa]

I fear much knowledge is lost simply by not understanding what was written by ancient people. And yes, once decyphered, a symbol is not likely to change meaning simply because the whole naritive would change. Like spelling, it was fluid before the printing press was invented but now words are stuck in place because someone said so.

An egyptologist says it has to fit the meaning we gave it because we gave it that meaning or all else is wrong. 

Why could all else not be wrong is what I want to know?

Or , why can it not have multiple layers of meaning?
The book Dawning Moon of the Mind gave me a very insightful way to look at Egyptian hieroglyphs. The surface concrete meaning, the phoneme, the word play, puns, the metaphysical meaning, and the mental conceptual meaning all in one carving.  In a way most closely related to Chinese characters, but not quite the same.

[sahgwa]

I watched it and it's plausible that they could somehow have made such a device. I'm not entirely convinced that it could be used for any real practical purpose, other than as something to impress or wonder at, particularly as priests showing priestly power.

It was interesting!

At it's most basic it would be necessary as a tool to illuminate tight indoor spaces, much like inside temples or pyramids, to see to chisel inscriptions?
Question is what kind of battery would it use?