Innovations in Recycling and Renewables

[BeyondKnowledge]

Those are some deep pockets, would love to see a solution for plastic recycling, right now the market is too inconsistent after the geniuses that run our cities went to single stream and set back the industry decades....

Let me tell you a story about plastic recycling. 

About 12 years ago or so I was sent to a sales office of a big local corporation to pick up a box of plastic to recycle. I was the maintence supervisor and needed to pick up a part, the office was a couple of blocks from where I was going. 

When I got there, it was about the size of a shoebox. I could have squished the plastic in it and put it in my pocket.

That is the mentality we are dealing with. They want to be seen to be good for the environment but not really doing any good at all. If I had not been out for a part, the gas used would have been more than it was worth. 

Most government types are even more clueless.

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Let me tell you a story about plastic recycling. 

About 12 years ago or so I was sent to a sales office of a big local corporation to pick up a box of plastic to recycle. I was the maintence supervisor and needed to pick up a part, the office was a couple of blocks from where I was going. 

When I got there, it was about the size of a shoebox. I could have squished the plastic in it and put it in my pocket.

That is the mentality we are dealing with. They want to be seen to be good for the environment but not really doing any good at all. If I had not been out for a part, the gas used would have been more than it was worth. 

Most government types are even more clueless.

I have a sneaking suspicion the US government has nothing to do with anything 'green' related as they have just extended the compliance deadline to filter out forever chemicals from drinking water.

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MAHA at work:

"The Trump administration has proposed extending the compliance deadline for U.S. public water systems to filter PFOA and PFOS (two major "forever chemicals") from 2029 to 2031.  This change, announced by EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin and HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., allows water utilities to petition for a two-year extension to complete necessary treatment infrastructure." (LLM)

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/18/health/tr...k-wellness

[BeyondKnowledge]

I have a sneaking suspicion the US government has nothing to do with anything 'green' related as they have just extended the compliance deadline to filter out forever chemicals from drinking water.

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MAHA at work:

"The Trump administration has proposed extending the compliance deadline for U.S. public water systems to filter PFOA and PFOS (two major "forever chemicals") from 2029 to 2031.  This change, announced by EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin and HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., allows water utilities to petition for a two-year extension to complete necessary treatment infrastructure." (LLM)

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/18/health/tr...k-wellness

It falls in the rain. It blows around in the air on a dusty day. It is found in isolated areas many miles from civilization.  What good is filtering the water actually going to do. 

It is ether not a real problem or it is way too late to do anything about it.

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It falls in the rain. It blows around in the air on a dusty day. It is found in isolated areas many miles from civilization.  What good is filtering the water actually going to do. 

It is ether not a real problem or it is way too late to do anything about it.

Reduction is the goal in any way possible, I would think. These forever chemicals are extremely accumulative in the body, you know.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Reduction is the goal in any way possible, I would think. These forever chemicals are extremely accumulative in the body, you know.

Yes they may accumulate. Were these tests before or after the gloves were discovered to be a source contaminating the tests?

Again, they are already everywhere. Does an umbrella help when swimming in an ocean while it rains?

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Yes they may accumulate. Were these tests before or after the gloves were discovered to be a source contaminating the tests?

Again, they are already everywhere. Does an umbrella help when swimming in an ocean while it rains?

We would have to dive into all the studies on this because some used proper cleanroom gloves so their findings would be what we want.

Would reducing the amount of forever chemicals a baby and small children consume lessen the toxic, cancer-causing effects?

[BeyondKnowledge]

We would have to dive into all the studies on this because some used proper cleanroom gloves so their findings would be what we want.

Would reducing the amount of forever chemicals a baby and small children consume lessen the toxic, cancer-causing effects?

Are you going to keep that paby isolated in glass all its life? 

Forever chemicals and micro plastics are now everywhere and in everything. The questions are how harmful are they, how concentrated are they and where are they concentrated? When we answer those questions, we can work on how to eliminate them.

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Are you going to keep that paby isolated in glass all its life? 

Forever chemicals and micro plastics are now everywhere and in everything. The questions are how harmful are they, how concentrated are they and where are they concentrated? When we answer those questions, we can work on how to eliminate them.

They are not everywhere and the accumulative effect works its way up through the food chain starting with water and air.

They are very harmful and it is advised that zero consumption is best.

Yes any baby in my care will be eating, drinking and dressed as healthy as is humanly possible. 

https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfa...ation/map/

https://static.ewg.org/ewg-tip-sheets/EW...ngPFCs.pdf

https://act.ewg.org/E5rWKtkmVEWRDjVtydpV...id=1022939

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"Reverse osmosis (RO) systems and certified granular activated carbon (GAC) filters are the most effective technologies for removing PFAS from drinking water.  To ensure a filter actually removes these "forever chemicals," you must look for specific NSF/ANSI P473 certification, which tests for broad PFAS reduction, or NSF/ANSI 58 for RO systems and NSF/ANSI 53 with specific PFOA/PFOS claims for carbon systems.  Standard filters certified only to NSF 42 (for taste and odor) or generic carbon pitchers like standard Brita are generally not effective for significant PFAS removal. " (LLM)

https://www.frizzlife.ca/blogs/guide/pfa...king-water

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And that last post leads me here...

"Recent breakthroughs in PFAS filtration technology focus on capturing and destroying these "forever chemicals" more efficiently than traditional methods. Flinders University has developed a nano-sized molecular cage embedded in mesoporous silica that acts as a selective trap, removing up to 98% of PFAS, including difficult short-chain variants, and remaining effective after multiple reuse cycles. 

Simultaneously, Rice University researchers have created a layered double hydroxide (LDH) material made from copper and aluminum that captures PFAS up to 100 times faster than commercial carbon filters.  This system not only traps the chemicals but also allows for their thermal destruction and regeneration, enabling at least six complete cycles of capture and renewal without releasing toxic by-products. 
For home consumers, several certified systems are currently available:

• iSpring WGB32B-PFKS: A whole-house system using SGS-tested media to remove up to 99% of PFAS, along with heavy metals and sediment. 
  
• US Water Systems Pioneer: A whole-house unit certified under NSF/ANSI P473 for PFOA/PFOS removal, designed to reduce contaminants below the new EPA maximum contaminant levels of 4 parts per trillion. 
  
• Filtra Systems: An under-sink in-line filter using PicoBlue technology and activated carbon to remove 99.8% of PFAS and PFOA, tested to EPA standards. " (LLM)
  
  
  https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...225951.htm
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...filtration