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Somali fraud scandal
#21
(12-04-2025, 11:38 AM)putnam6 Wrote: I'd suggest offering your legal services to the defendants with such surefire reasoning and logic... FFS 


The 600 fraud cases are tied up in the ongoing larger fraud litigation as of now; it wasnt enough instances to change the results, which implies there were some used to vote and discovered later

Where are your sources for those claims and not from Grok (from X) and not from your non-transparent government either.
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#22
(12-04-2025, 11:47 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Where are your sources for those claims and not from Grok (from X) and not from your non-transparent government either.

like the lack of transparency at the state level that lead to this far reaching corruption. 

There was fraud.  There is no question.  How wide spread it was and why it was hidden by the state is slowly being exposed.  You are bad as a flat earther where they say anything from NASA is a lie.

More and more evidence of fraud is being discovered and all you can do is take a playbook from flat earthers and slander any source you don’t like with zero evidence of your allegations and false assurances.
#23
(12-04-2025, 12:09 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: like the lack of transparency at the state level that lead to this far reaching corruption. 

There was fraud.  There is no question.  How wide spread it was why it was hidden by the state is slowly being exposed.  You are bad as a flat earth where they say anything from NASA is a lie.

More and more evidence of fraud is being discovered and all you can do is take a playbook from flat earthers and slander any source you don’t like with zero evidence of your allegations and false assurances.

I am reading that there is fraud galore in many states, why is Trump focusing on just this one state, hmm? It's obvious to me, is it obvious to you?

Oh the Drama here on DI about this is laughable.

"In a Sunday morning interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union,” Klobuchar accused the president of trying to “stoke division and make people hate each other.”
 “Every state has a problem with crime,” Klobuchar said. “But what the president has done here is taken a horrific crime that occurred in Washington, D.C., where one beloved guard member is still struggling for his life, another was shot and killed. … He took that case, and then he went 2,400 miles away to Somalia and somehow indicted an entire group of people.”
 
Walz, who ran on the Democratic ticket with former Vice President Kamala Harris last year, has repeatedly drawn the ire of the Trump administration, with the Justice Department suing his state and launching a probe into allegations of hiring discrimination.
 
Federal prosecutors have brought charges against dozens of Somali Americans over the last three years in a wide-ranging corruption investigation into the social services system in Minnesota, which is home to nearly 80,000 members of the Somali diaspora.
 
The Minnesota Department of Human Service Employees — an account that claims to represent more than 480 employees in the state’s Human Services Department — alleged that the governor “betrayed Minnesota and caused some of the worst inequities Minnesota has ever seen, hurting the most vulnerable and needy” in a Sunday statement.
 
Walz said any individuals who committed fraud would be punished.
 
“Those people are going to jail and we are doing everything we can, but to demonize an entire community on the actions of a few, it’s lazy,” Walz said on NBC."

Walz, Klobuchar hit back against Trump’s attacks on Minnesota - POLITICO
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#24
(12-04-2025, 11:47 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Where are your sources for those claims and not from Grok (from X) and not from your non-transparent government either.

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Sources? What are you, my editor?

 Why don't you go and search the internet, find and vet a source that the 600 voter fraud cases in the Minnesota Somali community didn't include actual voting?

Till then, Ive got an appointment to sit on my deck in 50-degree rainy weather and watch the dog turds dissolve in the yard and trash swirl down in the sewer, which is infinitely more entertaining and educational than continuing the useless back and forth with a contrarian, comatose, and obtuse Canadian goose.
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Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
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#25
(12-04-2025, 12:41 PM)putnam6 Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...8aca9c.gif][Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...8aca9c.gif][Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...8aca9c.gif][Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...8aca9c.gif]

Sources? What are you, my editor?

 Why don't you go and search the internet, find and vet a source that the 600 voter fraud cases in the Minnesota Somali community didn't include actual voting?

Till then, Ive got an appointment to sit on my deck in 50-degree rainy weather and watch the dog turds dissolve in the yard and trash swirl down in the sewer, which is infinitely more entertaining and educational than continuing the useless back and forth with a contrarian, comatose, and obtuse Canadian goose.

Got it! You have no credible sources. lol

For the record, this fraud case isn't anything out of the ordinary.

"As part of its COVID fraud investigations, IRS-CI has been extremely focused on investigating instances of Employee Retention Credit (ERC) fraud, a refundable tax credit for certain eligible businesses and tax-exempt organizations that had employees and were affected during the COVID-19 pandemic. As of Feb. 28, IRS-CI has initiated 545 investigations, involving more than $5.6 billion in ERC fraud in tax years, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. Seventy-five of the 545 investigations have resulted in federal charges. Thus far, 38 defendants in those cases have been convicted, with 18 defendants sentenced to an average of 21 months in prison."

Five years post-CARES Act: IRS-CI has launched 2,039 COVID fraud investigations totaling $10b in attempted fraud | Internal Revenue Service
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#26
Well, I see the Left is playing the racist card for the billionth time.

Predictable.
#27
(12-04-2025, 12:42 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Got it! You have no credible sources. lol

For the record, this fraud case isn't anything out of the ordinary.

"As part of its COVID fraud investigations, IRS-CI has been extremely focused on investigating instances of Employee Retention Credit (ERC) fraud, a refundable tax credit for certain eligible businesses and tax-exempt organizations that had employees and were affected during the COVID-19 pandemic. As of Feb. 28, IRS-CI has initiated 545 investigations, involving more than $5.6 billion in ERC fraud in tax years, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. Seventy-five of the 545 investigations have resulted in federal charges. Thus far, 38 defendants in those cases have been convicted, with 18 defendants sentenced to an average of 21 months in prison."

Five years post-CARES Act: IRS-CI has launched 2,039 COVID fraud investigations totaling $10b in attempted fraud | Internal Revenue Service

Yeah, never said, suggested, or inferred the case is "out of the ordinary." Lucy the Obtuse goose 

It's not out of the ordinary for a Democratic state. There was a thread about Massachusetts a while back about COVID fraud; this Somali voter fraud is caught up in the JUST-released larger Somali community COVID fraud investigation.

There's no further specific information on every 600 cases of voter fraud. 

Geometry much...
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
#28
(12-04-2025, 01:12 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, never said, suggested, or inferred the case is "out of the ordinary." Lucy the Obtuse goose 

It's not out of the ordinary for a Democratic state. There was a thread about Massachusetts a while back about COVID fraud; this Somali voter fraud is caught up in the JUST-released larger Somali community COVID fraud investigation.

There's no further specific information on every 600 cases of voter fraud. 

Geometry much...

I never said that you suggested it, I am saying it as a matter of fact. This is just another Trump Tirade shitshow where some here want to hold some political drama skits or schticks.
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#29
(12-04-2025, 01:21 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I never said that you suggested it, I am saying it as a matter of fact. This is just another Trump Tirade shitshow where some here want to hold some political drama skits or schticks.


Just because you state something you naively believe emphatically doesn't make it any more factually so. 

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and cloud your judgment and rational thought processes

For factual clarity...


The Minnesota fraud investigations, primarily involving schemes that defrauded federal and state social services programs (such as child nutrition, Medicaid-funded housing, and other aid during and after the COVID-19 pandemic), began in 2020. This aligns with the early months of the pandemic, when state officials first raised concerns about suspicious applications and invoices in programs like the Federal Child Nutrition Program administered through the Minnesota Department of Education. Federal prosecutors and the FBI later expanded probes into related schemes, leading to charges starting in late 2022 and ongoing convictions as of 2025.

The aforementioned Massachusetts COVID fraud cases ALSO were mostly filed, charged, indicted, and adjudicated before your arch nemesis, Donald J Trump, was doing his skits and schticks

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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
#30
(12-04-2025, 01:43 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Just because you state something you naively believe emphatically doesn't make it any more factually so. 

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and cloud your judgment and rational thought processes

For factual clarity...


The Minnesota fraud investigations, primarily involving schemes that defrauded federal and state social services programs (such as child nutrition, Medicaid-funded housing, and other aid during and after the COVID-19 pandemic), began in 2020. This aligns with the early months of the pandemic, when state officials first raised concerns about suspicious applications and invoices in programs like the Federal Child Nutrition Program administered through the Minnesota Department of Education. Federal prosecutors and the FBI later expanded probes into related schemes, leading to charges starting in late 2022 and ongoing convictions as of 2025.

The aforementioned Massachusetts COVID fraud cases ALSO were mostly filed, charged, indicted, and adjudicated before your arch nemesis, Donald J Trump, was doing his skits and schticks

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I posted a government source which I thought you would accept, but I see even if it is from your government if it opposes your bias then it's to be ignored. Continue with your drama schtick here it should be amusing as it goes along.
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