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So all you aircraft buffs
#1
Was the Aurora real yes or no?

No sonic booms without odd-shaped contrails!
#2
No Aurora was  project name for B2 Bomber wing trailing edge redesign off memory.
#3
No. The amount of money in the budget was far too low to be an actual program, and any contrail becomes the so called "donuts-on-a-rope". I watched three do it last week after commercial aircraft went over.
#4
One point I consistently see people going on about with reference to “Aurora” is the donuts on a rope contrail that were allegedly the result of a pulse detonation engine. 

So…two things about that. First, as Zaphod pointed out, that’s a fairly normal occurrence with regular, every day commercial jets. Under the right atmospheric conditions, you can almost predict when they’ll appear. 

Second, pulse detonation engines are a pretty good option for smaller hardware like missiles, but are apparently not that great for anything that you’d want to put a human into, particularly in that era. 

Now then, did the United States have or work on something to follow the SR-71 in the Cold War 70s and 80s? I would have a hard time believing that we didn’t at least try to do better. I suspect we were trying to engineer something in that time, and that if we HAD managed to pull it off, there would have been a small number of these things that functioned more as technology demonstrators than actual working spy planes. The SR-71 was still in service and, although somewhat limited in where it could go safely, was still working very well elsewhere.
#5
(12-07-2025, 07:16 PM)stealth blimp Wrote: Was the Aurora real yes or no?

No sonic booms without odd-shaped contrails!

I'm gonna say no.

Like others have said though, was work carried out on building a replacement/demonstrator?

There must of been a ton of research done and supposedly Area 51 is covered in buried aircraft that will never see the light of day.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#6
(12-07-2025, 07:16 PM)stealth blimp Wrote: Was the Aurora real yes or no?

No sonic booms without odd-shaped contrails!

Seems to me an aircraft capable of moving fast enough to skip sonic booms would still leave heat-distortion and plasma trails.

So not the odd contrails people claimed.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#7
(12-07-2025, 09:02 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: No. The amount of money in the budget was far too low to be an actual program, and any contrail becomes the so called "donuts-on-a-rope". I watched three do it last week after commercial aircraft went over.


If Zaphod58 doesn't think it existed that's good enough for me!
#8
I wonder what engineer Chris Gibson saw in the North Sea in 1989 refueling?
#9
(12-09-2025, 11:05 AM)stealth blimp Wrote: I wonder what that engineer saw in the north sea in 1989 being refueled though?

I often think that maybe 'they' built a few test aircraft that saw use a handful of times.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#10
(12-09-2025, 11:05 AM)stealth blimp Wrote: I wonder what that engineer saw in the north sea in 1989 being refueled though?

There are holes in that story. I can’t go back through it right now, but I remember some inconsistencies in it.



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