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(07-09-2026, 06:42 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Wasn't he a member of the European Parliament at the time?
I think his time as a Member of the European Parliament ended when the UK left the EU.
So January 2020 as far as i can establish.
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(07-09-2026, 06:32 AM)andy06shake Wrote: He was still a major political figure who was involved with Reform UK.
Even if he was not an MP at the exact time, his political influence, public profile, and role as a ""party leader"" are most certainly relevant.
Again, the purpose of transparency rules is to prevent hidden financial relationships affecting politics.
Not to enable just that.
And large gifts like £5 million to prominent political figures can reasonably raise questions about accountability.
Yeah, the people will love him for displaying that sort of mentality. 
As to the trying to shift the blame, good luck to him on that score, Starmer is going out the door.
Hopefully Farage follows...
Because let's face facts, the pair of them are pr#cks, p#icks.
Well this is being investigated, but here are some relevant parliamentary rules.
"The Commons code of conduct states that new MPs "must register all their current financial interests, and any registrable benefits (other than earnings) received in the 12 months before their election within one month of their election".
The rules say "purely personal gifts or benefits" from family or commercial loans would not normally have to be registered.
The rules also say "both the possible motive of the giver and the use to which the gift is to be put should be considered", adding "if there is any doubt, the benefit should be registered".
Farage replied "I have not" when asked on ITV's Good Morning Britain for details of what he had spent the money on.
Asked on BBC Breakfast to clarify what the money was for, Farage spoke about the threats to his personal safety and said "most times" the state had refused his requests for help.
On how much of the money he has spent, Farage replied: "It's literally none of your business.
"If I'd given it to charity, the truth is I haven't, I know what it's for."
Pressed on whether he has spent any of the money, Farage repeated it is "none of your business" before asking presenter Sally Nugent how much of her salary had been spent on petrol and beer.
Told it was the public's business to know, Farage replied: "No, it's not the public's business."
Asked again to say how much of the £5m has been spent on security, Farage said: "No, I'm not going to answer that deliberately, wilfully.
"It's not your business at the BBC to put me in danger therefore I will not answer it."
Nugent replied "we're not putting you in any danger at all", with Farage saying: "If I answer that question you are, so I won't.""
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0vx2edk0vo
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So it can be argued that the gift was for personal security and had nothing to do with politics except in the vein of thought that his involvement in past politics has him being harassed and attacked and some billionaire and perhaps others wanted to help him with his security.
I think his attitude is just if he indeed believes he has done no wrong as his lawyers have told him.
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(07-09-2026, 06:51 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well this is being investigated, but here are some relevant parliamentary rules.
"The Commons code of conduct states that new MPs "must register all their current financial interests, and any registrable benefits (other than earnings) received in the 12 months before their election within one month of their election".
The rules say "purely personal gifts or benefits" from family or commercial loans would not normally have to be registered.
The rules also say "both the possible motive of the giver and the use to which the gift is to be put should be considered", adding "if there is any doubt, the benefit should be registered".
Farage replied "I have not" when asked on ITV's Good Morning Britain for details of what he had spent the money on.
Asked on BBC Breakfast to clarify what the money was for, Farage spoke about the threats to his personal safety and said "most times" the state had refused his requests for help.
On how much of the money he has spent, Farage replied: "It's literally none of your business.
"If I'd given it to charity, the truth is I haven't, I know what it's for."
Pressed on whether he has spent any of the money, Farage repeated it is "none of your business" before asking presenter Sally Nugent how much of her salary had been spent on petrol and beer.
Told it was the public's business to know, Farage replied: "No, it's not the public's business."
Asked again to say how much of the £5m has been spent on security, Farage said: "No, I'm not going to answer that deliberately, wilfully.
"It's not your business at the BBC to put me in danger therefore I will not answer it."
Nugent replied "we're not putting you in any danger at all", with Farage saying: "If I answer that question you are, so I won't.""
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0vx2edk0vo
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So it can be argued that the gift was for personal security and had nothing to do with politics except in the vein of thought that he involvement in past politics has him being harassed and attacked.
I think his attitude is just if he indeed believes he has done no wrong as his lawyers have told him.
And that is his argument, Quint.
But I don't see the people swallowing it any more than the parliamentary investigation...
Aside from Gammon of course, but we can't teach pork.
And thats what Farage is counting on because it's his bread and butter...
The problem being he's shat bed in Clacton and never there.
No new affordable housing or new jobs worth a darn.
Failed to address the problems associated with housing already there, and lack of access to doctors and NHS...
He even claimed the police told him not to hold face-to-face constuancy surgeries in Clacton because it was not safe, which was also a blatant lie.
Thats going to be a concern for the constituents in question.
Considering the promises he made, and failed to keep in any sort of realistic manner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yos0ehvf7w
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(07-09-2026, 06:54 AM)andy06shake Wrote: And that is his argument, Quint.
But I don't see the people swallowing it any more than the parliamentary investigation...
Aside from Gammon of course, but we can't teach pork.
And thats what Farage is counting on because it's his bread and butter...
The problem being he's shat bed in Clacton and never there.
No new affordable housing or new jobs worth a darn.
Failed to address the problems associated with housing already there, and lack of access to doctors and NHS...
He even claimed the police told him not to hold face-to-face constuancy surgeries in Clacton because it was not safe, which was also a blatant lie.
Thats going to be a concern for the constituents in question.
Considering the promises he made, and failed to keep in any sort of realistic manner.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yos0ehvf7w]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yos0ehvf7w
Farage needs to get another financial gift from his billionaire buddy and head to the courts to argue this out and to fund the bi-election.
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So far all polls show Binface winning by a landslide.
It's also emerged that police had spent the last year investigating various potential fraud/corruption/illlegal overseas donations by Reform, Farage and Tice prior to the Parliamentary Standards Comitee/Electoral Comission tipping MET off about the dodgy donations.
The £500,000 donation to reform and £1m donation to their/Tice's think tank, Britain Means Business, by the convicted fraudsters Mum has been under investigation for nearly a year on the grounds it was an illegal/impermissible donation to disguise where the money really originated from. A few days after the £1m donation to BMB, BMB made a £500,000 donation to Reform to further obscure/launder the source of the money. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3eyq2np7qgo
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(Yesterday, 06:27 AM)bastion Wrote: So far all polls show Binface winning by a landslide.
It's also emerged that police had spent the last year investigating various potential fraud/corruption/illlegal overseas donations by Reform, Farage and Tice prior to the Parliamentary Standards Comitee/Electoral Comission tipping MET off about the dodgy donations.
The £500,000 donation to reform and £1m donation to their/Tice's think tank, Britain Means Business, by the convicted fraudsters Mum has been under investigation for nearly a year on the grounds it was an illegal/impermissible donation to disguise where the money really originated from. A few days after the £1m donation to BMB, BMB made a £500,000 donation to Reform to further obscure/launder the source of the money. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3eyq2np7qgo
A shower of "fiddlin bairns" springs to mind, the lot of them...
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(Yesterday, 06:54 AM)andy06shake Wrote: A shower of "fiddlin bairns" springs to mind, the lot of them...
Agreed but still shocked and highly empathetic about the recent death (murder based off current information) of Anne Widdecome.
I completely disagreed with all her politics but she still seemed a decent person who wished no harm and was a good contestant/host on HIGNFY.
I'd assumed it must be natural causes given age/health so news of a murder/manhunt are especially shocking; terrorism and politics seem to have been ruled out as a motive and the initial suspect (gardener given the wounds/neighbour comment to press?) was released without charge.
Her PR/Management not mentioning the apparent murder in their initial press release about her death is most likely innocent out of repsect for family/friends and/or police investigation.
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(Yesterday, 10:00 AM)bastion Wrote: Agreed but still shocked and highly empathetic about the recent death (murder based off current information) of Anne Widdecome.
I completely disagreed with all her politics but she still seemed a decent person who wished no harm and was a good contestant/host on HIGNFY.
I'd assumed it must be natural causes given age/health so news of a murder/manhunt are especially shocking; terrorism and politics seem to have been ruled out as a motive and the initial suspect (gardener given the wounds/neighbour comment to press?) was released without charge.
Her PR/Management not mentioning the apparent murder in their initial press release about her death is most likely innocent out of repsect for family/friends and/or police investigation.
Oh i vehemently disagreed with the woman's politics.
But nobody deserves to be murdered in their home.
A sad and tragic turn of events.
RIP Anne Widdecombe.
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