(02-17-2024, 05:09 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Oh, I think there is no fault about "who" ran the poll...
I think "YouGov" is no different than any other polling service. And in theory, polling "should" work, it is a simple matter 'counting' really... same as "voting." (But we can see just how well the "status quo" afficionados have made it impossible to count votes anymore.) This is much the same. It's almost as if the only way you can reliably trust polling is to do it yourself.
I think it complicates things when we ignore the fact that unlike in pre-industrial times, more power is now economic, as opposed to traditional or political.
Even if we get our favorite 'personalities' in office... They cannot 'master' anything... Politicians don't "bring change" any more than actors "make" the movie. That's why I call it "political theater" (and making "appearances" for the "game" is "political thespianism.") But Machiavellian characters who do that actually "create" "appearances" with the help of the accursed. (Pardon that hint of self-recrimination... for I cannot pretend that I haven't ignorantly allowed myself to propagate "appearances." I despise "falling for it," but I have.)
I just remembered Brexit .....now i dont know does it qualify as secession , and i dont live in UK....but somehow i did got the picture it did not go as people wished ...i may be wrong also . One thing they selled the Brexit was to stop migrants , but it actually increased after Brexit ( if i remember )
Maybe Brits are now happy , by not anymore in EU ...not sure the economy there thought, i remember seeing news how rich people are moving out UK , ( rats leaving the ship ? )
So in that sense ,politicians don't "bring change" necessarily.
