Safe town?

[KTemplar]

There is a heated debate going on in my town (Taxachusetts til I retire).

There are some people who appear to be linked to a supposed Soros funded group trying to pass a safe city act where I live. Basically the wording (their word salad) is that this will relieve the officers in our town of having to help ICE. According to these fools, they claim they don’t want to have to pay officers extra to assist ICE. Then the delusional clowns are crying about the Garcia gang member (who was suspected of human trafficking in TN) being sent to El Salvador claiming it’s a slippery slope and we could be next.

Of course my comments were deleted. I have notified everyone I know to show up to vote it down.

Is any other town out there experiencing this?


I seriously cannot understand tying the hands of law enforcement at the expense of innocent taxpayer paying Americans.

I personally know 3 people who were hit in car accidents by illegals who had no licenses, insurance, Id; so the people I know were left paying the deductibles for an accident they didn’t cause while the illegal is allowed to walk way. Now all of our car insurance goes up.

I overheard a woman at the grocery store on the phone talking to her lawyer two weeks ago because while in the hospital in Dec 2024, her roommate from Haiti was positive for TB. She was notified a month later. So I guess bringing back measles, tuberculosis and other eradicated diseases is now acceptable as well?

I’ve seen a few of these crazy women in public with signs, and they all look mad as hell. Like deranged mad. Destroying property (how do they sleep at night?). I bet none of these paid idiots have ever suffered in their lives. How did people lose common sense? Every video I’ve seen of these older white women screaming at town halls look like angry fools grandstanding for 5 minutes to feel important imo. What a disgrace!

The math ain’t mathing as David Schweikert would say!

Does anyone know where I can report this crazy activist group?

[KTemplar]

The group is named Indivisible.

[KTemplar]

This activist group has a planned event on:

April 26, 2025 at 12:00pm named Tesla takedown in Boston. why is nothing being done about these criminals, at the bare minimum I bet if you do an ssdi check, most of them are getting monthlies.

Also they need to make asylums great again, I’d bet a lot of them would be cured if it came down to asylum stays to keep your monthly.

[sahgwa]

I wish you luck in combating the madness.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Well yeah, it's been declared a Safe(ish) State!

Remember, we'd (State concensus) rather be delusional clowns than get a pat on the back for helping.

SB 54, also known as the California Values Act, significantly limits the involvement of state and local law enforcement in federal immigration enforcement activities. It restricts actions like investigating, detaining, or arresting individuals for immigration purposes, and prevents the transfer of individuals to federal custody, with limited exceptions. The law also prohibits the use of state and local resources for immigration enforcement and restricts the sharing of information about individuals with federal immigration authorities.

(Attempted) Safe County to adhere to SB54:

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/...2a2a91324c

San Diego County Sheriff Kelly Martinez will not follow a new county policy that aims to limit cooperation between her department and federal immigration agencies like ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement).

The policy, approved last month by the County Board of Supervisors, requires a federal judge to sign off before the Sheriff's Office can transfer an inmate to ICE. It also prohibits cooperation on lower-level federal civil immigration enforcement, such as cases where an immigrant overstays their visa.

It really depends how much the local PD's want to do.

The Sheriff's department defies it. They can't be seen participating in raids, but they will forward names of undocumented migrants with a criminal record to ICE.

Strangely, the 25 immigrants they most recently transfered to ICE custody happened in 2023.

The Sheriff patrols rural county and the cities of Del Mar, Encinitas, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, Poway, San Marcos, Santee, Solana Beach and Vista.

PD Breakdown:

SDPD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
National City PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Chula Vista PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Escondido PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Carlsbad PD - Limited/restricts ICE from facilites
Oceanside PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities

Of The Biggest 7 departments, only one has spoken in defiance of California's definance.

And now people are freaking out because all the immigration lawyers and advocates who are citizens are getting "unintentional" deportation letters. Which are being seen as an "oopsie" way of harrassing immigration advocates and intimidating them.

As far as how good that's all doing.

In San Diego County, there were 47,928 people held in ICE detention as of April 6, 2025. Of these, 22,249 (46.4%) had no criminal record.

"Why are 46% of the people held without criminal record if Trump is only targeting criminals?"

Those are the questions that make the local majority the "clowns" that influence police departments to not assist ICE.

It's too bad the 22,249 aren't unborn fetuses. Then people would have no problem with my state using its rights to protect them.

[sahgwa]

Well yeah, it's been declared a Safe(ish) State!

Remember, we'd (State concensus) rather be delusional clowns than get a pat on the back for helping.


(Attempted) Safe County to adhere to SB54:

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/...2a2a91324c



It really depends how much the local PD's want to do.

The Sheriff's department defies it. They can't be seen participating in raids, but they will forward names of undocumented migrants with a criminal record to ICE.

Strangely, the 25 immigrants they most recently transfered to ICE custody happened in 2023.

The Sheriff patrols rural county and the cities of Del Mar, Encinitas, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, Poway, San Marcos, Santee, Solana Beach and Vista.

PD Breakdown:

SDPD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
National City PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Chula Vista PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Escondido PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Carlsbad PD - Limited/restricts ICE from facilites
Oceanside PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities

Of The Biggest 7 departments, only one has spoken in defiance of California's definance.

And now people are freaking out because all the immigration lawyers and advocates who are citizens are getting "unintentional" deportation letters. Which are being seen as an "oopsie" way of harrassing immigration advocates and intimidating them.

As far as how good that's all doing.


"Why are 46% of the people held without criminal record if Trump is only targeting criminals?"

Those are the questions that make the local majority the "clowns" that influence police departments to not assist ICE.

It's too bad the 22,249 aren't unborn fetuses. Then people would have no problem with my state trying to protect them.

Simple question, why do you think it is okay to illegally enter a country and then get benefits from said country despite committing the crime of illegal entry? 
Secondary question: are you also this defensive of illegal immigrants to other countries, or just the USA?

I am editing this to mention that the OP is posting about Massachusetts, not California, for anyone else wondering.

[KTemplar]

I wish you luck in combating the madness.

Thank you!

[KTemplar]

Well yeah, it's been declared a Safe(ish) State!

Remember, we'd (State concensus) rather be delusional clowns than get a pat on the back for helping.


(Attempted) Safe County to adhere to SB54:

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/...2a2a91324c



It really depends how much the local PD's want to do.

The Sheriff's department defies it. They can't be seen participating in raids, but they will forward names of undocumented migrants with a criminal record to ICE.

Strangely, the 25 immigrants they most recently transfered to ICE custody happened in 2023.

The Sheriff patrols rural county and the cities of Del Mar, Encinitas, Imperial Beach, Lemon Grove, Poway, San Marcos, Santee, Solana Beach and Vista.

PD Breakdown:

SDPD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
National City PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Chula Vista PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Escondido PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities
Carlsbad PD - Limited/restricts ICE from facilites
Oceanside PD - won't assist/restricts ICE from facilities

Of The Biggest 7 departments, only one has spoken in defiance of California's definance.

And now people are freaking out because all the immigration lawyers and advocates who are citizens are getting "unintentional" deportation letters. Which are being seen as an "oopsie" way of harrassing immigration advocates and intimidating them.

As far as how good that's all doing.


"Why are 46% of the people held without criminal record if Trump is only targeting criminals?"

Those are the questions that make the local majority the "clowns" that influence police departments to not assist ICE.

It's too bad the 22,249 aren't unborn fetuses. Then people would have no problem with my state using its rights to protect them.

Thank you for explaining your stance on safe cities/towns!

My next question is then are the people who are ok with promoting this ok with losing federal funding?

Entering illegally is an actual crime, and from what I’ve heard is that immigration is going after hard criminals first, the others here illegally are being offered an app to help exit and some money to return so they can enter legally in the future.

On a personal note, one of my favorite people is a girl from Syria whom I’m friends with. She has shared her story with me over the years, and trust me their life there was perilous. It took her family 13 years, and they applied and followed up the legal way. Her sister is still stuck there as is her Dr husband. So how is it fair that people whom this country knows nothing about can jump the line, drain our SSI, housing market, driving up costs across the board because let’s face it, supply and demand is a driving factor in all these increases in costs and depletion of our systems?

If lawyers are doing their best lawful work, they wouldn’t have to worry about “being targeted”, more victim language for the covering of illegal poor behavior imo.

Off to fight clowns ;)

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Simple question, why do you think it is okay to illegally enter a country and then get benefits from said country despite committing the crime of illegal entry?
Secondary question: are you also this defensive of illegal immigrants to other countries, or just the USA?

Attempted simple answer. And it really is simple as an ostrich with its head in the sand.

I don't see it in my border city.

I live in the safest major American city across from from the most violent Mexican city. And only money, contraband, and workforce seem to cross the border.

The same gangs that kill 2400 people a year in TJ also purposely keep it on their side of the fence. We just see their destructive products, with no discernable rise in violent crime resulting.

22% of the city's population is foreign born. 180,000 people in the county are undocumented. 68,000 in the city alone..

In 2024, in the year of immigrants allegedly destroying my country and causing me harm, we had 35 homicides, less drug-related crimes, less theft, and less rape in a city of 1.3 million

They haven't hurt my city. It's not in my border adjacent back yard, so to speak.

All they do is benefit and add to my city. Multiculturalism is awesome. Great food. Crime went down as the naturaluzed people escaped California and illegal migrants took their place. Which is what happened between 2023 and 2024 to actually cause population growth.

And so there is some clarity:

I prefer they make it SO EASY (Like Ellis Island easy) that they don't even try to not turn themselves in. The system I like, puts resources towards documenting and speeding up their entry, not keeping them out. Or this mean shit we are doing.

I support their efforts to live their dream, even if they want to do it break entry rules doing it. In the way I dont criticize the parent stealing bread to feed hungry kids. They're found out as soon as the get arrested anyway. So it's like a natural filter that catches them if they deserve to be caught. And then they are documented. Otherwise they're paying rent, buying crap, and not really harming anyone unless you want to say indirectly though "my taxes."

As far as question two. No. It isn't my country to have an opinion on.

Done editing.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Attempted simple answer. And it really is simple as an ostrich with its head in the sand.

I don't see it in my border city.

I live in the safest major American city across from from the most violent Mexican city. And only money, contraband, and workforce seem to cross the border.

The same gangs that kill 2400 people a year in TJ also purposely keep it on their side of the fence. We just see their destructive products, with no discernable rise in violent crime resulting.

22% of the city's population is foreign born. 180,000 people in the county are undocumented. 68,000 in the city alone..

In 2024, in the year of immigrants allegedly destroying my country and causing me harm, we had 35 homicides, less drug-related crimes, less theft, and less rape in a city of 1.3 million

They haven't hurt my city. It's not in my border adjacent back yard, so to speak.

All they do is benefit and add to my city. Multiculturalism is awesome. Great food. Crime went down as the naturaluzed people escaped California and illegal migrants took their place. Which is what happened between 2023 and 2024 to actually cause population growth.

And so there is some clarity:

I prefer they make it SO EASY (Like Ellis Island easy) that they don't even try to not turn themselves in. The system I like, puts resources towards documenting and speeding up their entry, not keeping them out. Or this mean shit we are doing.

I support their efforts to live their dream, even if they want to do it break entry rules doing it. In the way I dont criticize the parent stealing bread to feed hungry kids. They're found out as soon as the get arrested anyway. So it's like a natural filter that catches them if they deserve to be caught. And then they are documented. Otherwise they're paying rent, buying crap, and not really harming anyone unless you want to say indirectly though "my taxes."

As far as question two. No. It isn't my country to have an opinion on.

Done editing.

Please explain this multiculturalism you mention.

Someone leaves their country for a better one only to being the practices that caused them to leave with them to their new country. Funny how they want a better life but don't want to actually learn to live better. And I am not talking about the food here. The food is already here.

And the same question can be asked of those leaving California for other states in the USA.