(05-23-2026, 04:06 PM)Toad of Toad Hall Wrote: so maybe that, if they had had a more nautical bent, they’d have been pirates rather than cotton plantation owners (if you will).
There may have been ex-pirates in the South but there were plenty of people descended from settlers who were subject to the king. There were also recent immigrants. One of the Hunley's crew was from Britain, one from Denmark, and two were from Germany.
The plantation owners were probably mostly descended from English, Scotch, or Welsh settlers who had been officially granted land by their king before the Revolution.
If my amateur historical guesswork is correct, they were of a distinctly different background than some of the other Southerners.
Southerners sometimes charge that the war was conducted as a genocide because it went on so long even though it stopped as soon as they lay down their arms.
The South had the West Point valedictorians, not the North.
The Southern leaders had the most incentive to conduct the war as a genocide, not the North. The plantation-owning class had been fighting for the expansion of slavery into Texas and Kansas to get more land. If there had been people holding Southern land who were descended from pirates or other unofficial settlers who had come without royal permission before the Revolution, perhaps the big planters would have viewed them as unworthy.
The South sent some of their men into combat shoeless and dependent on forage for food, armed with obsolete European smoothbore muskets which had probably seen better days.
Southern "vigilance committees" blockaded some Southern ports from sending out their cotton crop, ostensibly to manipulate bond prices, but perhaps they knew the planters had better not get too powerful. There have been successful slave armies in history like the Janissaries.
In fact, perhaps the plantation-owning class asked England to cooperate in making it look like they were rebelling and England might help them someday. Perhaps England's Atlantic shipping and Caribbean personnel had suffered from piracy.
Slavery had been illegalized in most of Europe and the Americas and the Brazilian planters were only 8 years away from voluntarily ending slavery when Secession happened. This fact suggests the large planters knew market pressures were going to eventually limit the profitability of slave-made goods or materials.