Revealing Facts About Slavery - Thomas Sowell

[Karl12]

During this current climate of state sponsored censorship (and promoted division) thought academic Thomas Sowell did a pretty comprehensive job in the vid below of exploring the history and horrors of slavery.















Excerpts from 'Intellectuals And Race' by Thomas Sowell:














Thought the author also brought up some extremely astute points about the 'inclusiveness' of slavery and how certain 'intelligentsia' groups completely subverted the teaching of the subject by 'highly selective filtering'.

Also some revealing facts being presented about the origins of the word 'slave' and recent historical examples from the Barbary coast and the Ottoman empire

The history of slavery across the centuries and in many countries around the world is a painful history to read - not only in terms of how slaves have been treated, but because of what that says about the whole human species - because slaves and enslavers alike have been of every race, religion and nationality.

If the history of slavery ought to teach us anything, it is that human beings cannot be trusted with unbridled power over other human beings - no matter what color or creed any of them are. The history of ancient despotism and modern totalitarianism practically shouts that same message from the blood-stained pages of history.

But that is not the message that is being taught in our schools and colleges, or dramatized on television and in the movies. The message pounded home again and again is that white people enslaved black people.

Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans; more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States and in the 13 colonies from which it was formed.

It is not just the history of slavery that gets distorted beyond recognition by the selective filtering of facts. Those who go back to mine history, in order to find everything they can to undermine American society or Western civilization, have very little interest in the Bataan death march, the atrocities of the Ottoman Empire or similar atrocities in other times and places.

Poisoning present by distorting slavery’s past

Also pretty disturbing to note that slavery is still extremely prevalent in the world today and according to National Geographic there are an estimated 27 million men, women and children in the world who are enslaved' (probably double or triple that).

Of all the tragic facts about the history of slavery, the most astonishing to an American today is that, although slavery was a worldwide institution for thousands of years, nowhere in the world was slavery a controversial issue prior to the 18th century. People of every race and color were enslaved – and enslaved others. White people were still being bought and sold as slaves in the Ottoman Empire, decades after American blacks were freed..

Incidentally, the September 2003 issue of National Geographic had an article about the millions of people still enslaved around the world right now. But where is the moral indignation about that?

"There are an estimated 27 million men, women, and children in the world who are enslaved — physically confined or restrained and forced to work, or controlled through violence, or in some way treated as property.

Therefore, there are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries of the trans-Atlantic slave trade [11 million total, and about 450,000, or about 4% of the total, who were brought to the United States]. The modern commerce in humans rivals illegal drug trafficking in its global reach—and in the destruction of lives".

There are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries

[Lysergic]

The price of slavery increased to minimum wage.

it made me wait 28 seconds cause my uber micro skills is too OP for the forum

7 more seconds.

[Karl12]

Hi mate Klassified once posted this vid and it's pretty amazing how most folks are completely unaware of the subject.

Had heard of the Ottoman slave trade before but genuinely wasn't aware of the immense scale of it.

Apparently the U.S. sent Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and John Adams as ambassadors to the 'slaver' nations involved and when Jefferson became president he stopped the paying of tribute money to them (20% of gross national product) using the same funds to invest in the building of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.

Seems the resulting 'Tripoli war' (along with everything else) has been completely scrubbed from the historical syllabus although it still pops up in a few U.S. Marine Corp songs.








See 3:10













Incidentally, when it comes to those responsible for the absolute subversion of the U.S. education system (especially 'History') then there's a great interview here with Norman Dodd.

Would be genuinely interested on your opinion on the actual thread content.










Christopher nails it here:

[Karl12]

Anyone any thoughts on this one?

[Maxmars]

Sadly, the bitterest pill is the fact that all this talk of the past dilutes the attention desperately need here and now today. 

Human markets exist, they are real; and there are more "slaves" now then there were then... "human trafficking" is a real thing... 

But since race has nothing to do with it, no one seems to talk about it.

[Karl12]

Yes apparently the open air slave markets in Libya are now back doing a roaring trade (30 dollars a man, 20 dollars a woman) - I've seen the footage but won't post it here.

It's also pretty amazing to think how the vast majority of Americans are completely unaware of the reason for the formation of their own Navy.

Really do wonder just who it is responsible for the 'scrubbing' of history and the promotion of selective 'racist' narratives.

Here's author Konstantin Kisin on the subject.

[Maxmars]

Yes apparently the open air slave markets in Libya are now back doing a roaring trade (30 dollars a man, 20 dollars a woman) - I've seen the footage but won't post it here.

It's also pretty amazing to think how the vast majority of Americans are completely unaware of the reason for the formation of their own Navy.

Really do wonder just who it is responsible for the 'scrubbing' of history and the promotion of selective 'racist' narratives.

The cynic in me wants to say that the people most likely complicit in the brainwashing of society about slaves are the ones most likely to benefit from that zeitgeist.  That those who can amplify their voices to the point of creating the common dialog that slavery is 'an issue of the past' are doing so because it benefits them.

They have substituted 'shame' for responsibility.  And in doing so, they substitute selfish emotions about things long passed, for any hope of action now... because it's only "history."

There are too many of our sons and daughters being 'consumed' like meat products... they need our help... while we flagellate ourselves with the sins of others.

Oi... it's late and I am prattling on...

[Solvedit]

Anyone any thoughts on this one?

The Crimean Khanate captured slaves in Central Europe and sold them to the Ottomans and their barbary allies. 

The least obedient ones may have been sold far downriver to West Central Africa.  It may be that the ones who got sold furthest down river are still calling themselves "the disobedient nation." 

The Lithuanian word for "the not good or disobedient people" would be the ne geri.  If you added the suffix for a nation, it would be Negerija or "ne" as in net, "ge" as in get, "REE" as in repeat, and "ya" as in yup or yuk without the p or the k.  (There is no soft g sound in the central European J.)

The official version has an English colonial administrator's wife coining the word Nigeria in 1897 after the Latin word for black.  But it may not be so. 


The Lithuanian word for "to play music" is "grot" which sounds at least a little reminiscent of the African word for traveling, news-bearing minstrels which is "griot."

[FlyingClayDisk]

There's an old saying which goes..."History is written by the victors"  (Churchill)

Many academics love to argue this point, and for good reason (in their minds).  Why?  Because it reflects directly, and negatively, on conversations exactly like the one at hand.

So, I guess we must ask ourselves...who are the 'victors'?

Something to think about.