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Remove Your Blinders - Personal Bias Filtering
#11
(08-22-2025, 09:58 AM)Good Bacteria Wrote: That was an interesting read. Your post and your initial engagement with another member.

What you described happened right on que. We should probably all take a step back, or at least try and limit the tiktok usage, maybe?

There is a cost to using these "devices".

You are hinting at what I had hoped would come up, the internet and the goldfish effect. This seems to be the main reason this is happening.
 
Quote:However, researchers are concerned that the way in which we are using the internet is having a long-term effect on our collective attention span. Reining in our minds to focus on a singular task or idea could be becoming more difficult, some report.  The National Centre for Biotechnology Information at the US Library of Medicine reportedly conducted a study claiming that the average human attention span has dropped from 12 seconds in 2000 to 8 seconds in 2013, one second below that of a goldfish. Hence, the term ‘The Goldfish Effect’ was born.

https://embryo.com/blog/the-goldfish-effect/
#12
(08-22-2025, 09:15 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: When I post in forums or post comments in social media, I put a lot of effort in wording my statements very carefully and clearly. I provide sources and information where necessary and try and be sure I have made my point without logical or grammatical errors and typos. I very often edit my post two or three times after posting it.

However, no matter how well I make my points and clearly state what I am trying to convey, even repeating it from different angles, many people (if not most) tend to see and hear only what they expect to be seeing and hearing. This happens just as often when talking directly in person during general conversations.

People will even "jump the gun" and assume what you are going to say and cut you off from completing your thought. It can get so bad you can't even finish your first sentence. Of course, this can't happen online when you can finish writing before posting it, but that doesn't stop people from filtering out your talking points and offering some counter point they have, even if it is entirely unrelated to what you have said.

It is as if people read or hear something and it gets filtered and processed into some personal bias they have when confronted with a topic. Take any topic, it doesn't even have to be controversial, and someone will twist your words to make it fit their bias, and they may even get nasty about it. It seems so structured to automatically rearrange your perspective to fit some preprogrammed notion of any subject. I don't believe that this is intentional but more like a habit of not really listening or trying to comprehend what was just read.

It should be noted that some subjects are so out-of-the-box, that a response as I describe is likely a natural one. We can't but help to see things based on our life's experiences and what we have come to believe is true. I'm not really talking about that. I am talking about the contortions you have to go though to explain yourself when the first time around you couldn't have expressed yourself more clearly. It seems like people have been programmed at some point to skew reality into something they think they understand so they can ignore it and get on with their day.

I read your post, rearranged some letters and now I'm wondering why you slap nuns and punch tiny kittens in the face.

Mad
#13
(08-22-2025, 10:30 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: I read your post, rearranged some letters and now I'm wondering why you slap nuns and punch tiny kittens in the face.

Mad

You certainly cut to the chase and could see though my bias filtering. I should go outside now and practice bitch slapping some nuns and punching out little helpless kittens.
#14
(08-22-2025, 10:36 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: You certainly cut to the chase and could see though my bias filtering. I should go outside now and practice bitch slapping some nuns and punching out little helpless kittens.

Brevity is the soul of wit.
-Shakespeare 

But to your point, there is never an unbiased opinion.  It's alien to all humans.  To perform an unbiased act or quote would be an effort for anyone.

RECOGNIZING bias, on the other hand, is achievable.  In my most humble. . . .
#15
(08-22-2025, 10:41 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Brevity is the soul of wit.
-Shakespeare 

But to your point, there is never an unbiased opinion.  It's alien to all humans.  To perform an unbiased act or quote would be an effort for anyone.

RECOGNIZING bias, on the other hand, is achievable.  In my most humble. . . .

We can't help but be humans with biases, but we can avoid being a goldfish.
#16
(08-22-2025, 10:46 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: We can't help but be humans with biases, but we can avoid being a goldfish.

That would entail work, effort.

Is there an app for that instead?

Lol
#17
I appreciate you taking the time to write your OP "from the heart".

[opinion time]
Online discussions have evolved to the point where sharing thoughts and inputs now manifests as an emotional response.   First imporessions reading something evokes reactions rather than consideration or inquisition.   Responses seem to center around challenging a previous posting or topic rather than trying to understand it.  To much "one-uppance" in many online discussions.   This type of crap is what led me to stop participating in the "other" site.   Sharing info or questions or stories turned in to passive-aggressive challenges to the one sharing.  Me no likey
#18
(08-22-2025, 09:15 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: When I post in forums or post comments in social media, I put a lot of effort in wording my statements very carefully and clearly. I provide sources and information where necessary and try and be sure I have made my point without logical or grammatical errors and typos. I very often edit my post two or three times after posting it.

However, no matter how well I make my points and clearly state what I am trying to convey, even repeating it from different angles, many people (if not most) tend to see and hear only what they expect to be seeing and hearing. This happens just as often when talking directly in person during general conversations.

People will even "jump the gun" and assume what you are going to say and cut you off from completing your thought. It can get so bad you can't even finish your first sentence. Of course, this can't happen online when you can finish writing before posting it, but that doesn't stop people from filtering out your talking points and offering some counter point they have, even if it is entirely unrelated to what you have said.

It is as if people read or hear something and it gets filtered and processed into some personal bias they have when confronted with a topic. Take any topic, it doesn't even have to be controversial, and someone will twist your words to make it fit their bias, and they may even get nasty about it. It seems so structured to automatically rearrange your perspective to fit some preprogrammed notion of any subject. I don't believe that this is intentional but more like a habit of not really listening or trying to comprehend what was just read.

It should be noted that some subjects are so out-of-the-box, that a response as I describe is likely a natural one. We can't but help to see things based on our life's experiences and what we have come to believe is true. I'm not really talking about that. I am talking about the contortions you have to go though to explain yourself when the first time around you couldn't have expressed yourself more clearly. It seems like people have been programmed at some point to skew reality into something they think they understand so they can ignore it and get on with their day.

Lots of shills go through intense special training to make it look like what you are describing, buts it's an elaborate clever method to derail and deflect.  Wink2
#19
(08-22-2025, 09:15 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: It is as if people read or hear something and it gets filtered and processed into some personal bias they have when confronted with a topic. 

"It's not as if". Every bit of information, no matter the source, smell, touch, hear, taste, see, is processed by the subconscious part of the brain. Then handed to the consciousness, as a matter of fact. Which it isn't since the brain takes short cuts. I believe it is called selective perception. In fact it is impossible to prove any thought is from the conscious. It could all be coming from the subconscious.  

You tube has some interesting selective perception videos.

I believe media and social media have a found a way to manipulate this process, making some people impervious, to any information they dislike.
#20
(08-22-2025, 10:17 AM)MichSwampbuck Wrote: You are claiming that I wrote that you are paranoid, I never said that. I may have implied it somehow, but I wasn't thinking you were paranoid. Self-obsessed maybe, but not paranoid really.

I re-posted my "its normal statement".

I stand by my most people statement and have explained why.

Filter bias much?

What I do is psychological research much, and for your information 'all' people have biases to different degrees, so that includes you too. Surprise.
"The only journey is the one within."