Forcing The Compatability of Isms

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I had a thought that a nihilist and a deist trying to explain why cruel and tragic things happen sound the almost the same. 

In basic form:

• Deism is the belief in a creator God who designed the universe and its natural laws but does not actively intervene in human affairs or the world after its creation.

• Nihilism is a philosophy that rejects traditional values, beliefs, and meaning, claiming that existence is ultimately without purpose or inherent value.

Here is each explaining why God isn't receuiting angels after the drunk driver thought Bobby was a trashcan.

Nihilist:

Because there's nothing that cares about children playing street hockey on our insignificant planet. Nothing happens for a reason. Things just happen, and it's without any greater purpose.

Deist:

The laws of nature can be cruel and impersonal. It's an ambivalent experience. The laws that govern our lives have no will or intention of their own, and what happens is randomized by its very design.

They seem superficially related.

Design doesn't mean there's a reason, and lack of reason doesn't mean there isn't still design. It's all destined for masturbation without a reductive qualifier.

And it probably leads to the many conundrums in world religion. Like anatta (no self, no soul) and reincarnation. Where reincarnation becomes rebirth and gets defined as worldly impact, ideally, but still ends up more like the original vedic injunction... in a mess of contradicting spiritual positions. Like the need to maintain the abstract part outweighs the foundational belief.

It seems better to build a spituality off reality than the other way around, but in practice it often ends up the opposite. 

Perhaps where nihilism mostly fails is thinking a lack of purpose/meaning, and the indifferent rules of existence aren't actually meaning defined.

Because if we didn't have to develop one ourselves it wouldn't matter enough to be noticed as meaningful. The world's spituality seems completely inverted in this way.

[Bootless]

Perhaps where nihilism mostly fails is thinking a lack of purpose/meaning, and the indifferent rules of existence aren't actually meaning defined.

Because if we didn't have to develop one ourselves it wouldn't matter enough to be noticed as meaningful. The world's spituality seems completely inverted in this way.

Saying 29: Spirit and Body
Jesus said, "If the flesh came into existence because of spirit, that's amazing. If spirit came into existence because of the body, that's really amazing! But I'm amazed at how [such] great wealth has been placed in this poverty."

Gospel of Thomas

I wanted to take an Anthropology class but it interfered time wise with another class, so I took beginning Sociology. I learned the function, misfunction, and disfunctions of religions. The function could be social cohesion and mutual support of individuals. A misfunction is defined as a secondary thing that also happens. A dysfunction is something that happens which counters the function.

If I had taken Anthropology, then I may have learned that Western exploration and colonialism brought supposed civilized people into encounters with other people. The Westerners had the idea that religion was all about what comes after death and how to get the best outcome.

But religion in and of itself is about how to live with others. There need not be any after life for a way of life to be religious.

Let's see: Spirit ... spirit... maybe it's something accidental, like a misfunction of religion.