PARIS 2024 Angela Carini vs Trannie Imane Khelif

[Lysergic]

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Full Fight Above.

Olympic boxer deemed to have male chromosomes wins fight in 46 seconds, opponent left in tears after hard hits

 
An Algerian boxer who was deemed to have male chromosomes won a fight in the 66-kilogram women’s division at the Paris Olympics on Thursday.
Imane Khelif defeated Italy’s Angela Carini after Carini abandoned her match. The fight lasted all of 46 seconds before Carini went to her cornermen to call off the fight.
Khelif celebrated the win while Carini was left in tears. After the fight Carini, was heard yelling to hear coaches in Italian questioning the fairness of the bout.
 

Ladies... is that you voted for?

Seems misogynistic af to let dudes just beat the crap out of women in sport mediocre males that would get destroyed if they competed against a male.
but hey what do i know?

[Maxmars]

It actually feels like the entire pseudo-religion of The Church of Transactivism has been foisted upon the globe.

The "one-two" punch of "reach for what you desire until your hand gets slapped away" and "never say anything about anything if other people will claim you're ignorantly biased" makes it impossible to criticize, leaving the people open to the "go on, criticize me" jab.

(Now the progenitors of the opening stunt (which is what that was) can smile as they continue to degrade anything that has cultural value... because they can "get away with it."  I heard that any offense anyone feels over this is "fabricated" and that the soldiers in this assault are actually "more virtuous" than the critics... Perfect, just perfect.)

And here we have the destruction of Olympic boxing competition by violently (literal and figurative) making it impossible for some to compete... because physical competition is now essentially unisex. 

I have seen too many women, honorably seeking to try their hand at the pugilistic arts, utterly demolished by men... in another age that would have been considered the height of dishonor.  Now we celebrate the "courage" of the fighter who can't compete with their own peers... so they "cosmetically" (literal and figurative) changes peer groups... and bash those who used to be able to gauge their performance among each other...

I wonder why it was so important to kill (literal and figurative) Olympic sports competitions... because that's what they are obviously doing.

[AnAlternateOpinion]

Various sources:

Afterward, a still-tearful Carini said she quit because of intense pain in her nose after the opening punches. Carini, who had a spot of blood on her trunks, said she wasn’t making a political statement and was not refusing to fight Khelif.

Carini further said she is not qualified to decide whether Khelif should be allowed to compete, but she had no problem fighting her.

Khelif and Lin are two-time Olympians who fought in the Tokyo Games with no controversy. Lin has been an elite-level amateur boxer for a decade and Khelif for six years. They were allowed to compete in Paris by the IOC task force, which has run the past two Olympic boxing tournaments.

Neither boxer is transgender – they were assigned female at birth and identify as women though anti-trans activists have spread transphobic rhetoric about the two women’s gender identities

No trans women are competing at the Olympics this year.

[Maxmars]

Various sources:
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Thanks.

It appears that I have fallen to a characterization which I took for granted as true... that this was a transposed physical male competing outside his original gender group...

Apologies....  

Obviously I needed to do more background research.

(And it just makes me even more skeptical of media sources which use subtle turns of phrase to encourage that kind of misunderstanding.

[boredhere74]

Various sources:

Sorry chromosomes say different

[Lysergic]

Various sources:

sounds like cope

was born w benis

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[Maxmars]

sounds like cope

was born w benis

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Perhaps that is so... however, what was shown that there is a record of authorized 'decisions' to catalogue this athlete as a woman.  We now know why she was there.

If we focus on her, the problem itself will be unsolved.  This issue runs deeper than single individuals.
Whether her/his gender is specified, I tend to think this is not a biological matter at this point... it seems to be sociological.
The incursion is fact, no matter how we judge it.

Now I wonder if there will be a league of athletic endeavor which actually could get away with a 'women only' policy and mean exactly that.... except maybe Olympic Child-birthing.  Yes, it seems unfair to those women who have never undergone some process to 'become' who they already are.  But apparently the "governance" of the moment decrees it to be acceptable.  It is to them we must communicate for change... but fighting for a flawed status quo can ever so tiresome... (and sometimes nigh impossible to navigate.)

[k0rn]

Is this a real image or fake and is it the same person? I saw some others and it looks like they are about to grow a bit of a beard. People are saying it is a biological woman. If it is are the dosing testosterone? Trying to find anything on this that makes sense seems almost impossible on x.

[ArMaP]

Is this a real image or fake and is it the same person? I saw some others and it looks like they are about to grow a bit of a beard. People are saying it is a biological woman. If it is are the dosing testosterone? Trying to find anything on this that makes sense seems almost impossible on x.

I know a woman that looks similar to her that is definetly a woman, as she is also a mother.
As Imane Khelif, this woman I know was a top athlete, in her case in gymnastics.

Looks don't mean much, and testosterone levels do not make much of a difference.

Is this one of those relatively rare cases in which the sex "attributed" (I don't like the use of that word in this context) at birth wasn't correct? I suppose it's possible, but if it was then it was not born as a boy.

PS: in some countries around the Mediterranean sea (like Algeria and Portugal), it's not that uncommon to find women with some signs of a beard or moustache.

Edited to add that the "deemed to have male chromosomes" was never proved.

[FlyersFan]

XX/XY.
That determines male/female.
It's just that simple.

RARELY someone has Klinefelter syndrome or Swyer syndrome or XX male syndrome/Chapelle Syndrome.  But that's not what we are talking about.

XX competes together.
XY competes together.
Anything else is not fair and really stupid.