November 1st SNAP benefit funding

[putnam6]

Well...

They have until Friday.

And if they dont end what i hope is a symbolic month long refusal to let the ACA die they will actually do more to harm the people whose healthcare they are trying to save.  

5.5 million Californians are not getting their EBT reloaded.  I'm sure THAT is more important to them then the 14 million nationwide losing their health coverage.

They need to take the bitter fucking pill, because there is no compromise on healthcare with this administration, and move on.

41 million Americans don't get the EBT reloaded on Nov 1st.

"I'm glad you are fighting so hard to keep 4% of the country from losing health coverage, but the 12% of the country on food stamps prefers to eat."

Unless they really want to give Trump every opportunity to kill the democrat party. 

He can then just say, "To all 41 million Americans expecting SNAP benefits today, you can thank your democtat leaders! Etc. Etc.. something in ALL CAPS."

It's almost as if Democratic leaders are owned by special interest groups, and feel pressured to represent thier special interest partners instead of thier constituents.

Republicans do this too, but less overtly and seemingly less organized or it could be the perception, as MSM mostly is still reporting on the DNC as if they too are owned by the same special interest groups

[UltraBudgie]

Has the color-coded point been made?

Now do per capita, rather than percentage. Are you implying that Louisiana, at 19%, has more SNAP recipients than California, at 13%?

You've got to go into some pretty blatant number-trickery to try and show that red states get more money than blue. We're not dumb, you know. Stop please.

Has the color-coded point been made?

Are you making a partisan point? I don't care about partisanship. If any of the red states were pushing big-government welfare policies with a specific sense of entitlement, I'd object to that too. Oh wait, never mind the data, it's all hallucinated anti-Democrat hatred¹!


¹ I am trying sarcasming again!

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Now do per capita, rather than percentage. Are you implying that Louisiana, at 19%, has more SNAP recipients than California, at 13%?

You've got to go into some pretty blatant number-trickery to try and show that red states get more money than blue. We're not dumb, you know. Stop please.



Are you making a partisan point? I don't care about partisanship. If any of the red states were pushing big-government welfare policies with a specific sense of entitlement, I'd object to that too. Oh wait, never mind the data, it's all hallucinated anti-Democrat hatred¹!


¹ I am trying sarcasming again!

What about state poverty rate?

I dont want to do another chart.

We have 39 million people!? 

To have less recipients than Louisiana we'd have the lowest percentage per cepita in the country by far. 

That's the percentage of the population receiving benefits. It is per capita. Its a metric of a population average. I thought that is what those percentages were. 

Is gaslighting wired into republican rhetoric or what's up with that? You gonna be pissed we have as many people as Canada? 

"How dare you have a normal percentage of your residents needing assistance because you have so many people!"

* Or just admit you pissed a higher percentage of your money goes to us by virtue of population. 

You're the one doing number trickery and trying to twist things into fallacy.

[UltraBudgie]

Is gaslighting wired into republican rhetoric or what's up with that? You gonna be pissed we have as many people as Canada now?

How dare you have a normal percentage of your residents needing assistance because you have so many people! 

You're the one doing number trickery and trying to twist things into fallacy.

Okay, rather than play the same game of partisan rabbit season/duck season you seem to be encouraging, I'll just let the numbers speak for themselves and let the reader discern what truth they will.

If you think I'm giving favouritism to red states here, I assure you I'm not:

The red states would be the ones hit the hardest as many don't actually contribute really anything aside from attention because they need federal funding to survive.

Yeah, fuck them too. If their cities and towns or even state governments are too broke-ass to put them on the dole, the parasites in those states who insist on a free hand-out should move to California with the rest of the Marxists.

There's some more interesting financial statistics about California that I researched in that thread, if you're interested.

[Sky727]

Excitement for this weekend as the intent is to rob and cause mayhem. 

[UltraBudgie]

Since we're talking about lying with statistics, let's address the "dog-whistles" on this issue directly.

I'm not sure I've heard any on this thread, but I saw this chart on social media the other day, and I think it perfectly exemplifies the games being played:



Now, here is an example of how to lie with statistics! A few points to make about this chart.

First, notice that it is showing the percentage of households, out of the total population of that ethnicity in the country, that are enrolled in SNAP. Not the percentage of SNAP recipients that are of that ethnicity. That is very disingenuous, as in most cases those are not the same!

Second, those are self-reported ethnic backgrounds, and do not necessarily represent non-citizen or immigrant status! The little flags next to each line make it seem like these are foreigners, but from the stats, that's just the ethnic background they or their ancestors come from that they've chosen to claim.

Third, if there seems to be over-enrolment of some ethnicities, realize that up until earlier this year, certain refugee populations were automatically given SNAP eligibility when they were granted asylum. They might not even be using it! But, they're enrolled, and this chart implies they're "taking advantage".

So, look at what the chart wants you to conclude. It looks like a huge percentage of SNAP goes to Middle Easterners. But, in reality, only a tiny percentage does. That's a huge misrepresentation! The chart also indicates that about 25% of SNAP goes to Black families, and that is actually more accurate; about 25% of Black households nationwide receive SNAP, and that constitutes about 25% of the spending of the program.

But the real bias is the stats on White people. Does it seem to show that only 8.6% of SNAP goes to White people? Well, guess what? White people actually are the #1 ethnicity that receives SNAP! While only 8.6% of White household nationwide receive SNAP, that equals 35.4% of all spending. The chart is obviously attempting to downplay those numbers.

Okay, it's using data in a misleading way to play on racial biases. But ask, what is the purpose of this? Very simply, it is to occlude the actual issue: that this is not really about race. You want some demographic information?

Of the 41 million Americans receiving SNAP, there is one standout statistic: the level of poverty they're experiencing. There is a growing class divide.

That's why they want you to focus on race, and some factions (on "both sides"!) are actually amplifying disparities along racial lines to do so. So you won't realize that, in fact, these are casualties of a class war. Our politicians, for their own advantage, have made America fight with itself.

Don't take the bait.


https://personalfinancewizards.org/blog/...-ethnicity
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/2...-ethnicity
https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/...ity-chart/
https://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/supplemental...ogram-snap

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Doesn't seem to be effecting social security or VA benefits

[Unknownparadox]

70% of SNAP recipients are overweight or obese.

That's because of another welfare program. You are probably not aware of. It's called ethanol. It's where our brilliant leader wanted to make us energy independent. By wasting a lot of energy and tax money to make ethanol. This has the extra added effect of making corn syrup cheap. Which makes fattening snacks cheap. Which makes poor people fat.   

THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM IS ADMINISTERED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.
THEY PROUDLY REPORT THAT THEY DISTRIBUTE FREE MEALS AND FOOD STAMPS TO OVER 42 MILLION PEOPLE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

THAT MEANS THAT 42 MILLION FELLOW AMERICANS CAN NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO EAT.

MEANWHILE, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, RUN BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, ASKS US, "PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS".
THEIR STATED REASON FOR THIS POLICY BEING THAT..
"THE ANIMALS WILL GROW DEPENDENT ON THE HANDOUTS, AND THEN THEY WILL NEVER LEARN TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES".

SO THAT IS WHY BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES CAN'T MAKE A JOB WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT HANDOUT.

[KrustyKrab]

Percentage of State Residents That Recieve EBT:
(via Google Skynet) 

National 12.2%

California: 13.6%
New York: 15%
Illinois: 15%
Michigan: 14%
Indiana: 8%
Arkansas: 7.7%
Tennessee: 13%
Florida: 13%
Texas: 10.7%
Massachusetts: 15.6%
Arizona 12.1%
Alaska: 13%
Idaho: 7.1%
Mississippi: 13.1%
Louisiana: 19%
Georgia: 15%
North Dakota: 6.1%
Kansas 6.3%
Oklahoma: 16.8%
Oregon 17.7%
Hawaii 11.6%


Has the color-coded point been made?

  Oh yeah, we're just super-liberal by comparison with our welfare state handouts. We're not at all similar to Alaska, Florida, Mississippi, and Tennessee. 

Though rural states with corn, livestock, or nothing do quite well by comparison to the rest.

The best I could find was North Dakota at 6.1% and the worst by far was Louisiana.

Something I read awhile back was that most red states that are receiving high amounts of welfare benefits is being received by Blue counties and cities in those red states.   This is something the left never admits, hence why your graph is drawn up as it is.   It’s not the true reality of what is actually going on (by party) but it makes the democrats feel better about themselves when in actuality they’re just uneducated on the subject.    In other words your graph is not really that representative of what they’re trying to say it is.

[Unknownparadox]

Something I read awhile back was that most red states that are receiving high amounts of welfare benefits is being received by Blue counties and cities in those red states.   This is something the left never admits, hence why your graph is drawn up as it is.   It’s not the true reality of what is actually going on (by party) but it makes the democrats feel better about themselves when in actuality they’re just uneducated on the subject.    In other words your graph is not really that representative of what they’re trying to say it is.

I guess it makes some kind of difference which political party you belong to if you are poor. I live in a republican stronghold. Lots of poor people here on welfare/food stamps. I don't mind helping the poor, in fact I think it is the right thing to do. No matter what political party you belong to.

What pisses me off is helping the rich. Why would I want to help someone that has billions of dollars? Our tech lords, got around a half trillion from biden, and a half a trillion from trump.

I guess the left and the right can agree on one thing. Giving tax breaks and money to billion dollar companies is the right thing to do.