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Nothing on the Venezuela earthquakes?
#11
(06-25-2026, 07:59 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: This is earthquake is also related to why they have so much damn oil. Well, the ground deformation anyway.

So here's the America's angle, and the career I turned down.

How Venezuela got its absurd amounts of shallow low quality crude oil is pretty cool. 

During the cretacious when Venezuela was a passive continental margin and the oceans were almost anoxic. Algea and plankton still thrive in shallow margin waters in low oxygen because the anoxic oceans dont vertically mix layers, leaving a nutrient rich layer fed by continental outflow. 

But when organic material dies it clumps together and sinks through the unmixed water column. This get buried over time.

in Venezuela it was buried by the plate driven rise of the Andres (Cordillera). As the continent was forced upwards the shallow sea subsided, and kept subsiding and getting covered by sediment until it was deep enough to be heated back to the surface. It was basically squeezed out of hotter deeper layers into cooler more porous rock like sandstone above.  Then it gets trapped by mudstone, shale, or creates "tar plugs" and collects in shallow reservoirs.*

* which is a misnomer. Please dont make me explain how liquids can exist inside rock again like with the biblical flood mantle water, as that was painful.

But because these traps exist in very temperate areas interaction with water and microbes degrade the crude into highly viscous barely valuable shit.

But it's easy to get to, and there is a lot of it.

Did I make you explain how liquids can exist in rock before? haha

I always have earthquake questions when you are on duty...

But I know water and other liquids can and do exist in rock. 

Sounds like the opposite of shale oil deposits...
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#12
I am geo-traumatized by arguing "young earth proponents".

Every time I talk about any type of liquids in the earth, I remember distinctly having to discuss why the "reservoir of water in the mantle" cant be instantly purged for a global flood.  

And it all started trying to explain that the Joggins Formation was created during "The Carboniferous Era" when that area of Canada was actually on the equator, 300 million years ago.  

Though I spent most of the thread trying to impart that god cant wring the water out of ringwoodite and wadsleyite and purge the Mantle Transition Zone in a day. 

And for a "chemist," I had unusually hard time trying to explain why isotope decay is a great timekeeper. 

it should be in the ATS archive eventually..
#13
Thinking outside the box there were some magnetic field interruptions this month.  It is possible disruptions in the magnetic field of this world can have side effects on the planets behavior.

Goodluck to the humans in Venezuela suffering from these recent tragic events.

The most recent major coronal mass ejection (CME) and accompanying solar storm occurred in early June 2026, triggered by an X-class solar flare on June 3, 2026, which sent multiple clouds of plasma slamming into Earth's magnetic field and caused severe geomagnetic storms.

Other notable recent events include:June 24-26, 2026: A surprise glancing blow from a mid-June CME combined with fast solar winds to trigger a G1 (minor) geomagnetic storm, boosting aurora activity across the Northern Hemisphere.

June 8-9, 2026: A powerful Sun eruption launched a fast CME, prompting a G3 (strong) geomagnetic storm watch from the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center.

January 19, 2026: A record-breaking "severe" G4 geomagnetic storm hit Earth following an X1.9 solar flare, creating widespread auroras across unusually low latitudes.
 
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#14
Latest casualty figures  say over 200 pass away and thousands injured, US Southern Command is deploying relief forces. Also  sounds like a good cover to  move in operators and tie up some untidy loose ends ...  [Image: rapidfire.gif] [Image: rambo.gif] [Image: pistoldouble.gif] [Image: rocket.gif]  quietly of course, we will make sure the media is focused on disaster relief and dismiss the signals blockage in key areas as nothing more than infrastructure damage  [Image: yoshi.gif]


 
 

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(Yesterday, 02:22 PM)MONAD Ops Wrote: Thinking outside the box there were some magnetic field interruptions this month.  It is possible disruptions in the magnetic field of this world can have side effects on the planets behavior.

Goodluck to the humans in Venezuela suffering from these recent tragic events.

The most recent major coronal mass ejection (CME) and accompanying solar storm occurred in early June 2026, triggered by an X-class solar flare on June 3, 2026, which sent multiple clouds of plasma slamming into Earth's magnetic field and caused severe geomagnetic storms.

Other notable recent events include:June 24-26, 2026: A surprise glancing blow from a mid-June CME combined with fast solar winds to trigger a G1 (minor) geomagnetic storm, boosting aurora activity across the Northern Hemisphere.

June 8-9, 2026: A powerful Sun eruption launched a fast CME, prompting a G3 (strong) geomagnetic storm watch from the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center.

January 19, 2026: A record-breaking "severe" G4 geomagnetic storm hit Earth following an X1.9 solar flare, creating widespread auroras across unusually low latitudes.

You are drifting into the fringe of the box actually.

And slightly further inside then the full/new moon tidal alignment one. 

This one says "Geomagnetic Induced Currents" travel deep into faults, which heats the water at the fault to expand, push the plane apart, and lower friction.  

And like the moon one, the geomagnetic storm one only has a shred of plausibility for faults under EXTREME STRESS AT A CRITICAL FAILURE POINT. (Like The San Andreas) And only then it can be the final straw to break the camel, for the extremely minimal impact it has as compared to earth's motion itself.

And it is fiercely debated, mostly still demanding extraordinary proof enough current can be induced to thermally trigger even a critically stressed fault.
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(Yesterday, 03:10 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: Latest casualty figures  say over 200 pass away and thousands injured, US Southern Command is deploying relief forces. Also  sounds like a good cover to  move in operators and tie up some untidy loose ends ...  [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmi...idfire.gif] [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmilies/rambo.gif] [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmi...double.gif] [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmilies/rocket.gif]  quietly of course, we will make sure the media is focused on disaster relief and dismiss the signals blockage in key areas as nothing more than infrastructure damage  [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmilies/yoshi.gif]

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Yes, I'm sure our interests will make sure the Orinoco Belt is safe and secured, and no wells were affected.  They will no doubt also make sure the damage to the tanks at nearby refineries are minimized.

Really, the damage here is foreshadowing for the San Andreas.

Looking at pictures you can tell when the buildings were constructed.  The ones still standing are post 1967 construction..

The importance of retrofitting, and Venezuala's systematic uneven give a shit about grandfathered structures showed.

In the "affluent" Altamira neighborhood 1960s built 22 and 14 story towers collapsed like pancakes, while nearby buildings built in the 70s or later did remarkably well.

Time is ticking LA.

And the County of LA government bought a 52 story unrettrofitted steel frame high rise in downtown built in 1991. It is considered "Very High Risk" of collapse  in the 7.8 or 7.9 shake out scenario. One of FIVE high rises at risk of total collapse in that scenario on probability alone. Steel-framed structures built from mid-seventies to 1995 have a welding brittleness flaw. 

Dont look at Venezuela and think it cant happen here with LAs sometimes baffling hubris and complacency.
#17
But you were saying buildings from the seventies were dong fine. Surely buildings constructed in the nineties Los Angeles, California would fare at least as well as these ones in Venezuela which were older. Could the welding flaws really be that bad or widespread?
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(Yesterday, 04:43 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: But you were saying buildings from the seventies were dong fine. Surely buildings constructed in the nineties Los Angeles, California would fare at least as well as these ones in Venezuela which were older. Could the welding flaws really be that bad or widespread?

Not necessarily.

They thought they had good seismic codes. But after Northridge in 1994, steel framed skyscrapers that were built before that point were found to have flaws with the welds failing under extreme shaking.  Widespread brittle fractures in the welded beam to column joints happened in SERVERAL modern steel skyscrapers after the quake. 

It led to a code change on steel-framed structures thereafter. But the ones they already built remain largely there with the same damn flaw awaiting shaking stronger and longer then what a 6.7 can produce. 

Retrofitting the high rises was deemed too costly per square foot.