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#11
(10-18-2025, 11:27 AM)Kurokage Wrote:  Surely you guys should be celebrating the fact that ordinary people don't want to end up in camps or under the boot??

Ordinary people aren't in camps and are not under the boot.
The protests are lemmings protesting against a fair democratic election.
They don't like the results. 
They are the threat to democracy.
No different than the J6 crowd who refused to accept fair election results ... but on a larger scale.
#12
(10-18-2025, 11:49 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: The left has an opportunity to find a platform and message that resonates with the American people, ...

... and yet their only message is 'we hate Trump'.
The left are rudderless, leaderless, and have no message other than that.
And it's a useless message.
#13
(10-18-2025, 01:10 PM)FlyersFan Wrote:  
... and yet their only message is 'we hate Trump'.
The left are rudderless, leaderless, and have no message other than that.
And it's a useless message.

And the right is making the same mistake with arrogance after a win. The whole "mandate" narrative, as if it gives a blank check to use unlimited executive power, and go directly against the constitution. That's why we'll never break free from the cycle of horrible presidents and admins.
#14
I can safely say that not all "protests" are going to be "mostly peaceful.

I hope stores aren't looted, vehicles or businesses burned, or people harmed or killed.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
#15
(10-18-2025, 01:17 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I can safely say that not all "protests" are going to be "mostly peaceful.

I hope stores aren't looted, vehicles or businesses burned, or people harmed or killed.

The ones today? I think they'll probably be peaceful. That will give fuel to the story that "look we're just peaceful law abiding Americans", which then gives cover to the brick-throwers for a few news-cycles, which CNN can then dismiss as "a few hotheads" and "Trump is overreacting and is a secret fascist".

The media's job right now is to keep the Democrats convinced they're the "good guys", while attacking an elected President and his implementation of the domestic agenda that won him the election, painting him as a brutal racist dictator who is shredding the Constitution.

There is very little that Trump has done that is not directly within the remit of the Constitution and protective of the rule of law (he did, however, authorize military action against a non-nation-state cartel without explicit Congressional designation or issuance of a letter of marque and reprisal, which I find questionable).
#16
(10-18-2025, 01:33 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: The ones today? I think they'll probably be peaceful. That will give fuel to the story that "look we're just peaceful law abiding Americans", which then gives cover to the brick-throwers for a few news-cycles, which CNN can then dismiss as "a few hotheads" and "Trump is overreacting and is a secret fascist".

The media's job right now is to keep the Democrats convinced they're the "good guys", while attacking an elected President and his implementation of the domestic agenda that won him the election, painting him as a brutal racist dictator who is shredding the Constitution.

There is very little that Trump has done that is not directly within the remit of the Constitution and protective of the rule of law (he did, however, authorize military action against a non-nation-state cartel without explicit Congressional designation or issuance of a letter of marque and reprisal, which I find questionable).

Peaceful isn't in their lexicon.

I will beg to differ.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
#17
(10-18-2025, 11:49 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I'd just like to add that I don't think that the protests are productive. While I whole heartedly believe in the right to protest, and strongly disagree with some of the narratives on X that this is one big anti American protest, the truth is they're fighting against something that has already happened.

Trump is not the root of all of America's problems. He is a glaring symptom of it. The left has been tone deaf for decades, and while they had short term success with Obama, they followed suit with Hillary, Biden, and Harris.

The left has an opportunity to find a platform and message that resonates with the American people, not just their most supportive base. I feel as if they prioritized identity politics and culture war topics (the right is guilty of this two, but I feel that's more of a response). A lot of third party, independents, and swing voters don't have those issues as a priority. They want to buy a house, have a family, and live a comfortable life. 

Protesting isn't going to change anything in this instance. Trump has proven that he has the conviction to continue on even if the whole country hated him. But what they could do is demand their own party get their act together.

It's meaningless 

Virtue signaling to their own side while trying to get under the skin of their opposition 
Not much different than the truckers protest during Biden's term
This is how the left and right mirror each other 
As corruption steadily attains unsustainable levels 

Americans have grown too soft to initiate real change
Addicted to creature comfort 
Compromised because there's too much to lose 

Many are going to lose it all, anyway
#18
These idiots are causing major traffic in my small town today. Every tour was late because of these fucktards.

You got him for 3.3 more years. Deal with it.!
#19
(10-18-2025, 02:47 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Americans have grown too soft to initiate real change
Addicted to creature comfort 
Compromised because there's too much to lose 

I won't say you're wrong, but I think—and hope—that you're being too cynical. I think many on the left are noticing what you are pointing out, that they are being used as weaponized patsies to serve the corrupt power of their own political establishment. And on the right, too—in fact, I think that very realization is what got Donald Trump elected in 2016 to begin with. I mean, did you see the rest of the Republican field that year?

There is hope for change. It begins with not treating each other as targets for slogan, labels, and concocted smears.
#20
(10-18-2025, 02:52 PM)KKLoco Wrote: These idiots are causing major traffic in my small town today. Every tour was late because of these fucktards.

You got him for 3.3 more years. Deal with it.!

Yea, Trump and the White Hat kpop demon hunters are going to defeat the evil Satan worshippers