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#1
There is a mystery with Neptune and a thread to USO and Atlanteans, Dragons and magic and other strange stuff.  

Maybe to poke at Chozzar first and the fact that dragons are used as illusions (unless it's breathing fire and trying to eat you).

Helena Blavatsky - Good to take a quick look at who she was, and understand she wrote obsessively and try and work from there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky
 
Quote:[[Vol. 2, Page]] 356 THE SECRET DOCTRINE.Heaven originate with St. John, and in his Revelation? Emphatically we answer -- No. His "Dragon" is Neptune, the symbol of Atlantean magic.
To demonstrate the negation the reader is asked to examine the symbolism of the Serpent or the Dragon under its several aspects.
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THE SIDEREAL AND COSMIC GLYPHS.
Every astronomer -- besides Occultists and Astrologers -- knows that, figuratively, the astral light, the milky way, and also the path of the Sun to the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, as well as the circles of the Sidereal or Tropical year, were always called "Serpents" in the allegorical and mystic phraseology of the adepts.

 
This, cosmically, as well as metaphorically. Poseidon is a "Dragon": "Chozzar, called by the profane Neptune" (Peratae Gnostics); the "Good and Perfect Serpent," the Messiah of the Naaseni, whose symbol in Heaven is Draco.
 
But one ought to discriminate between the characters of this symbol. For instance: Zoroastrian Esotericism is identical with that of the Secret Doctrine; and when, as an example, we read in the Vendidad complaints uttered against the "Serpent," whose bites have transformed the beautiful, eternal spring of Airyana-Vaego, changing it into winter, generating disease and death, at the same time as mental and psychic consumption, every occultist knows that the Serpent alluded to is the north pole, as also the pole of the heavens.* The latter produces the seasons according to the angle at which it penetrates the centre of the earth. The two axes were no more parallel; hence the eternal spring of Airyana Vaego by the good river Daitya had disappeared, and "the Aryan Magi had to emigrate to Sagdiani" -- say the exoteric accounts. But the esoteric teaching states that the pole had passed through the equator, and that the "land of bliss" of the Fourth Race, its inheritance from the Third, had now become the region of desolation and woe. This alone ought to be an incontrovertible proof of the great antiquity of the Zoroastrian Scriptures. The Neo-Aryans of the post-diluvian age could, of course, hardly recognise the mountains, on the summits of which their forefathers had met before the Flood, and conversed with the pure "Yazathas" (celestial Spirits of the Elements), whose life and food they had once shared. As shown by Eckstein (Revue Archeologique, 8th year, 1885), "the Vendidad seems to point out a great change in the atmosphere of central Asia; strong volcanic eruptions and the collapse of a whole range of mountains in the neighbourhood of the Kara-Korum chain."
[[Footnote(s)]] -------------------------------------------------* Symbolized by the Egyptians under the form of a Serpent with a hawk's head.
https://sacred-texts.com/the/sd/sd2-1-21.htm

Helena left out the whole quote on Chozzar, "Chozzar, called by " vs "Her name is Chorzar"
Quote:It seems, then, expedient to set forth a certain one of the books held in repute amongst them, in which the following passage occurs: "I am a voice of arousal from slumber in the age of night. Henceforward I commence to strip the power which is from chaos. The power is that of the lowest depth of mud, which uprears the slime of the incorruptible (and) humid expanse of space. And it is the entire power of the convulsion, which, ever in motion, and presenting the colour of water, whirls things on that are stationary, restrains things tremulous, sets things free as they proceed, lightens things as they abide, removes things on the increase, a faithful steward of the track of the breezes, enjoying the things disgorged from the twelve eyes of the law, (and) manifesting a seal to the power which along with itself distributes the downborne invisible waters, and has been called Thalassa. This power ignorance has been accustomed to denominate Cronus, guarded with chains because he tightly bound the fold of the dense and misty and obscure and murky Tartarus. According to the image of this were produced Cepheus, Prometheus, (and) Japetus. The Power to which has been entrusted Thalassa is hermaphrodite. And it fastens the hissing sound arising from the twelve mouths into twelve pipes, and pours it forth. And the power itself is subtle, and removes the controlling, boisterous, upward motion (of the sea), and seals the tracks of its paths, lest (any antagonistic power) should wage war or introduce, any alteration. The tempestuous daughter of this one is a faithful protectress of all sorts of waters. Her name is Chorzar. Ignorance is in the habit of styling this (power) Neptune, according to whose image was produced Glaucus, Melicertes, Ino, Nebroe. He that is encircled with the pyramid of twelve angels, and darkens the gate into the pyramid with various colours, and completes the entire in the sable hues of Night: this one ignorance denominated Cronus. And his ministers were five,--first U, second Aoai, third Uo, fourth Uoab, fifth . . . Other trustworthy managers (there are) of his province of night and day, who repose in their own power. Ignorance denominated these the erratic stars, from whom depends a corruptible generation. Manager of the rising of the star is Carphacasemeocheir, (and)

https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/t...ytus5.html

Lines like this is often instruction for astral projection and opening up gateways to other dimensions.
Quote:Thalassa is hermaphrodite. And it fastens the hissing sound arising from the twelve mouths into twelve pipes,

Above and below. Double currents the hermaphrodite, the snake is a path, twelve pipes is frequencies and vibrations and chakra's. I encounter these many times, like phone numbers. Other times it's nonsense.  Good to keep an eye out for them.

Using "Dragons" or the "devil" is an age old tactic to hide information. Don't look at the devil...

Sometimes instructions on how to make children with your choice of NHI fathers and mothers or specific ones. Sliding scales for requirements, usually ritual involved.
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Sex-Magic-not-a-guide

Dragons hides people and crime. Conspiracy, code.

Neptune...USO/UAP there is a link.

As Poseidon, Neptune was a force of nature.

edit: what is not conspiracy is that information is codified and spread across books
#2
interesting

The latter account led to a Hippolytus being considered the patron saint of horses. 
Poseidon/Neptune

Little is known for certain about his community of origin. One Victorian theory suggested that as a presbyter of the church at Rome under Pope Zephyrinus (199–217 AD), Hippolytus was distinguished for his learning and eloquence. It was at this time that Origen, then a young man, heard him preach.

At this time, he seems to have allowed himself to be elected as a rival Bishop of Rome

Also under this view: during the persecution at the time of Emperor Maximinus Thrax, Hippolytus and Pontian were exiled together in 235 to Sardinia,[9] likely dying in the mines

According to Prudentius' account, a martyr Hippolytus was dragged to death by wild horses,[10] a striking parallel to the story of the mythological Hippolytus, who was dragged to death by wild horses at Athens. 

Athena

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippolytus_of_Rome
#3
Yup, instructions for the astral. All weird shit, need to look into it. Peratae....
Quote:[The Source of their Tradition.]—HIPPOLYTUS says that the mysteries symbolized by the serpent are at the root of all Gnosticism; and though the Church Father himself has not any idea what these mysteries really are, as is amply proved by all his remarks, we agree with him, as we have endeavoured to show above. He then proceeds to treat of the system of the Peratae, to whom we have already referred, and whose Mysteries (Hippolytus calls them their "blasphemy against Christ") had been kept secret "for many years." We know from other sources that the school was prior to Clement of Alexandria. The system of the Peratae was based on an analogy with sidereal considerations, and depended on the tradition of the ancient Chaldaean star-cult. In Book iv., Hippolytus has already endeavoured to refute the Chaldaean system of the star-spheres; but though he makes some good points against the vulgar astrology of the time, he does not affect the mysterious doctrine of the septenary spheres, of which the empirical horoscopists had long lost the secret, and for which they had substituted the physical planets. Hippolytus had the Peratic school especially in mind in his attempted refutation of the art of the astrologers and mathematicians, of which, however, he admits he had no practical knowledge, but space compels us simply to refer the student to the fourth book of his Philosophumena for the outline of astrology which the Church Father present


This is all instructions. Think summoning angles and their hosts (or demons) or just Cthulhu and his minions
Quote:Eccabbacara (is the same). Ignorance is in the habit of denominating these Curetes chief of the winds; third in order is Ariel, according to whose image was generated Aeolus, Briares. And chief of the twelve-houred nocturnal (power) is Soclan, whom ignorance is accustomed to style Osiris; (and) according to the image of this one was born Admetus, Medea, Helen, Aethusa.
 
Chief of the twelve-houred diurnal power is Euno. This is manager of the rising of the star Protocamarus and of the ethereal (region), but ignorance has denominated him Isis. A sign of this one is the Dog-star, according to whose image were born Ptolemaeus son of Arsinoe, Didyma, Cleopatra, and Olympias. God's right-hand power is that which ignorance has denominated Rhea, according to whose image were produced Attis, Mygdon, (and) (Enone. The left-hand power has lordship over sustenance, and ignorance is in the habit of styling this Ceres, (while) her name is Bena; and according to the image of this one were born Celeus, Triptolemus, Misyr, and Praxidica. The right-hand power has lordship over fruits. This one ignorance has denominated Mena, according to whose image were born Bumegas, Ostanes, Mercury Trismegistus, Curites, Petosiris, Zodarium, Berosus, Astrampsuchus, (and)
 
Zoroaster. The left-hand power is (lord) of fire, (and) ignorance has denominated this one Vulcan, according to whose image were born Ericthonius, Achilles, Capaneus, Phaethon, Meleager, Tydeus, Enceladus, Raphael, Suriel, (and) Omphale. There are three intermediate powers suspended from air, authors of generation. These ignorance has been in the habit of denominating Fates; and according to the image of these were produced the house of Priam, the house of Laius, Ino, Autonoe, Agave, Athamas, Procne, Danaides, and Peliades.

A power (there is) hermaphrodite, always continuing in infancy, never waxing old, cause of beauty, pleasure, maturity, desire, and concupiscence; and ignorance has been accustomed to style this Eros, according to whose image were born Paris, Narcissus, Ganymede, Endymion, Tithonus, Icarius, Leda, Amymone, Thetis, Hesperides, Jason, Leander, (and) Hero." These are PROASTIOI up to AEther, for with this title also he inscribes the book.
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/t...ytus5.html
#4
A little quote from David Bentley Hart, who I like because he's erudite and pretentious and not one bit apologetic about it:

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1: The Shiji and the Zhuangzi both record that Confucius once likened Laozi to a dragon, which is to say to a creature so wise, mysterious, elusive, and magical that no one could really hope to understand it. Chinese dragons, as we all know, are very different from their rapacious Western cousins; whereas the latter are cruel and cold, grasping and jealous of their treasure hoards, hiding beneath the earth in stony caverns and nourished by the maidens they extort from kings and villagers for their larders, the former are celestial spirits, mysterious and rare, but also beneficent and warm, vital and witty, living among clouds where no treasure can be stored. Chinese dragons at their best bring blessings, not terror; they bestow gifts rather than demand tribute; they are philosophers and sages, not mafiosi and brigands. The great tragedy of modern China in its campaign to become the world’s foremost commercial and military power has been its embrace of Western draconian values over the indigenous Eastern variety. Culture is always a matter of which dragons a people chooses to serve and to emulate.

https://davidbentleyhart.substack.com/p/...i-shored-2

And since threads like this tend to be all over the place, consider the parallel between the forked tongue of the serpent and the split left-right legs of man. The so-called first chakra of the muladhara is only the lowest of the central channel. There are dual paths from there to the feet and hands, too, and chakras along them, but unlike the spine, you can't see only one on the path, you have to see both or none. The serpent talks, mankind walks. And...
#5
(05-08-2025, 07:37 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: And since threads like this tend to be all over the place, consider the parallel between the forked tongue of the serpent and the split left-right legs of man. The so-called first chakra of the muladhara is only the lowest of the central channel. There are dual paths from there to the feet and hands, too, and chakras along them, but unlike the spine, you can't see only one on the path, you have to see both or none. The serpent talks, mankind walks. And...

Pretty good, food for thought.

The dragon is all over the place. Keep missing China and not on purpose, I have to go out of my way to get info from that side.

This Hippolytus character is suspect and the heresies. Didn't know these exited, definitely instructions for the astral plane.


Neptune though, specifically the name Neptune. It has significance
#6
Did everyone just quote Helena without checking. Did "The tempestuous daughter of this one is a faithful protectress of all sorts of waters. Her name is Chorzar." somehow become a pig and set?  The spelling isn't even right.
 
Quote:The symbol of this dark deity resembles the triple prong of Neptune, which is the name by which Chozzar is known to the profane. Cf. the Chaldaean letter Shin with its triple tongue of fire attributed to Set or Shaitan. The word ‘chozzar’ means ‘pig’. This animal was adopted by the Typhonians as a symbol of Set. In the Tantric Cults of the Vama Marg the pig was chosen as a secret symbol because it is the only animal known to eat human excrement. See Aleister Crowley @ the Hidden God, Chapter 6.


Ignorance is in the habit of styling this (power) Neptune
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/t...ytus5.html

brain rot is real.