NBA’s Chauncey Billups & Terry Rozier Arrested in Gambling Probe

[KKLoco]

If I heard correctly, there were 2 independent investigations, Chauncey and Damon were in the high-stakes poker "Face Cards" that attracted the "fish" to play with NBA Coaches etc. 

Rozier was supplying inside info to bet on games or prop bets

One of those indicted supposedly was in debt to the guys with the crooked noses, and they ramped up the insider knowledge, knowing LeBron isn't gonna play an hour before everybody else, which is supposedly some of the malfeasance perpetrated.

IF there are 2/3 coaches and players, there are likely others.

This is much like the Kawi Leonard Aspiration 'no show' $28 million contract. Used by the Clippers to subvert the salary cap several years back. Big investigation going on with that right now. Many league sources are saying this is going to open a huge can of worms. They believe it is a league wide practice.

[putnam6]

This is much like the Kawi Leonard Aspiration 'no show' $28 million contract. Used by the Clippers to subvert the salary cap several years back. Big investigation going on with that right now. Many league sources are saying this is going to open a huge can of worms. They believe it is a league wide practice.

Im not familiar with the story, I'll look it up

There's so much money out there... There will always be those looking to make an easy buck... giving college athletes so much NIL money

unsubstantiated rumors about teams collectively helping those with less NIL monies by shaving points is another twist on a  tale as old as time.

[putnam6]

[putnam6]

Sounds a bit click baitish to me...
 

 
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Dom Lucre | Breaker of Narratives

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BREAKING NEW: LeBron James has now been linked to the FBI’s rigged gambling probe.

Details of LeBron James' injury status were sold by his friend and former NBA player Damon Jones as part of a massive prop betting scheme, according to court docs and law enforcement sources.

Every industry except sports was exposed until now, Big pharma, politics, music industry, Hollywood, and even science, sports was the last pillar of the man made simulation to keep humans distracted.

What is about to happen next will change life forever, we will be the first generation to learn the truth of every industry that plays a role in our lives.

[CriticalStinker]

Of course, gambling is more of a risk to any sport's overall integrity and a huge source of the entertainment revenue, aka the bottom line.

As high-profile as they are sports sports-related domestic abuse cases the number they mirror other high-stress careers. 


As distasteful as the slaps on the wrist are from the sports leagues, it's up to the judicial system, and most of these cases are settled with financial remuneration and lesser charges.

Because our judicial system is so overcrowded, AG have to take into account the chances of convictions where these cases get settled. Like DeShaun Watson, without witnesses, no legal case. 

What are the leagues supposed to do? How can they punish someone not found guilty who negotiated lesser charges?

It's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Many wanted a lifetime ban for Michael Vick, but once they have served thier time, what can law enforcement or the leagues do.

Politicians have even more connections, and slush funds... it just the way it is
On the other side, troublemaker Trevor Bauer was effectively "me too" blackballed from the league for a crime he did not commit.

Your slippery slopes are there as well...if a league officially bans someone

My big problem with how this is dealt with is it’s not a two lane road.

Did these guys bet with insider knowledge? Looks like it. Should they be held accountable if found guilty? Law is the law.

But my rub is this, if the crime is the ripped off the books by making money with that knowledge, I’m curious how many times a book maker got in trouble for setting odds with non public information. My guess is never.

So it’s another instance of a different set of rules for the institution vs participants. Banks/casinos have one set of rules, we have another. And then there are politicians who can do it all out in the open.

I’ve always struggled with seeing things skeptically. Like how society can watch violence happen with nothing but a few game suspension, but get outraged when a few people worked over a casino lol.

[Kaiju666]

This is beautiful. No one above the law. Clean all the filth. Think of the meltdowns if/when bigger names surface. Can’t wait to see more.

[quintessentone]

Why am I surprised?

X-ray table - has cameras built in to it, looking upward to view the laid down cards.

Shuffle machines - the deck shuffler notifies the casino if a card is missing, the camera on the machine know every card in that machine - this is used to ensure fairness and accuracy in the deck. The shuffle machine was hacked to allow cheaters to know which cards are where and there is also a sound incorporated into the machine to fool people into thinking the deck is being shuffled but it really is not being shuffled.

Phone - add code to make phone a cheating phone. Texas hold'um with three players - when dealer takes cards out and cuts them - the phone will tell which player will win.

[putnam6]

My big problem with how this is dealt with is it’s not a two lane road.

Did these guys bet with insider knowledge? Looks like it. Should they be held accountable if found guilty? Law is the law.

But my rub is this, if the crime is the ripped off the books by making money with that knowledge, I’m curious how many times a book maker got in trouble for setting odds with non public information. My guess is never.

So it’s another instance of a different set of rules for the institution vs participants. Banks/casinos have one set of rules, we have another. And then there are politicians who can do it all out in the open.

I’ve always struggled with seeing things skeptically. Like how society can watch violence happen with nothing but a few game suspension, but get outraged when a few people worked over a casino lol.

Yeah, it might be my age, but it's the same as it's ever been. The sports leagues will reflect what society will or won't tolerate.

 I go back to Michael Vick again, a pretty heinous crime, plenty wanted him banned for life. Hell, I agreed, BUT that isn't really fair to a person who has paid what our legal system considers his debt for the heinous crime he committed.

It was left up to public sentiment, there were a few protests BUT overall all NFL fans didn't care. You know, like a democracy works 

The world's full of injustices. Conversely, Trevor Bauer got royally screwed just because his accuser rose during the height of the Me Too movement

He was a lousy teammate, pretty much antisocial social azzhat, BUT he did none of the heinous crimes he was accused of and still has an effective ban from baseball. 

So it isn't always, it just happens sometimes...

Im completely convinced Watson is guilty, and he gets his 290 million contract from the NFL. Because it is the law of the land, and a completely legal law-abiding negotiated settlement. 

If the NFL or any other league chooses league-wide punishment or bans, they would likely continually get sued by the numerous DAPs and lose, and the resultant PR nightmare(s) would damage the brand.

Domestic abuse doesn't threaten the league's integrity or have the far-reaching consequences like gambling does.

Domestic abuse cases, public or high profile, almost always have negotiated settlements, or our court systems would be clogged up forever. 

FWIW, AI estimates 

less than 1 player in 100 and less than 1 coach in 300 gets caught up in a domestic abuse case, 
 

Conclusion

• Players: Domestic abuse rates (1.08%) are comparable to or slightly lower than general adult arrest rates (1.2–1.6%) and lower than male-specific rates (~2.4–3.2%). Including unreported cases, society’s rate (4–5%) far exceeds players’, suggesting athletes aren’t disproportionately abusive despite high-profile cases.
  
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• Coaches: Rates (~0.33%) are significantly lower than both general and male-specific populations, likely due to age, lower visibility, or internal handling.
  
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• Overall: Professional sports (~0.94%) show lower or comparable reported incidence than society, but public attention amplifies perception. Underreporting in both contexts complicates direct comparisons.
  

Total Domestic abuse cases  (Big Four Major professional Sports league the last 10 years)

~125–170 cases total


Aggregate estimate; excludes unreported cases or non-criminal allegations. NFL accounts for ~60–70% of total.
Sources: USA Today NFL Arrests Database, ESPN league reports, Wikipedia athlete violence summaries, Gitnux sports crime stats (2015–2019 baselines extended with recent cases). These figures focus on confirmed arrests or league investigations; actual incidents are likely higher.
Notable Cases and League Responses
Leagues have implemented policies post-2014 (e.g., after the NFL's Ray Rice scandal), emphasizing suspensions over outright bans. Training programs (e.g., NFL's annual sessions, MLB's with Futures Without Violence) aim to prevent issues, but enforcement varies. Here's a breakdown of high-profile cases and punishments from the last 10 years:
NFL

• Policy: Minimum 6-game suspension (unpaid) for first offense; lifetime ban for second. Applies even without criminal charges.
  
• Key Cases:
  • Ray Rice (2014, but impacts 2015 policy rollout): Indefinite suspension (effectively banned; never returned).
    
  • Ezekiel Elliott (2017): 6-game suspension (alleged assaults; no charges).
    
  • Kareem Hunt (2018): Indefinite suspension (video evidence of assault; released by Chiefs, returned 2019 with Browns).
    
  • Deshaun Watson (2022): 11-game suspension (multiple sexual misconduct allegations; no criminal charges).
    
• Trends: ~88% of guilty players (2000–2014 data) missed ≤1 game pre-policy; post-2015, averages ~4 games for violence against women. Arrests down ~50% since 2014, per league data.
  

NBA

• Policy: Minimum 10-game suspension for violent felony conviction; flexible for misdemeanors (e.g., any length unpaid). Includes mandatory counseling.
  
• Key Cases:
  • Miles Bridges (2022): 30-game suspension (felony assault; pleaded no contest).
    
  • Kevin Porter Jr. (2023): Released by Rockets (felony assault; fractured victim's neck).
    
  • Jaxson Hayes (2022): 12-game suspension (assault on ex-girlfriend).
    
• Trends: No permanent bans; focus on rehabilitation. ~5% arrest rate (higher than NFL's 2%).
  

MLB

• Policy (since 2015): Flexible suspensions (15–162+ games); no minimum/maximum. Includes victim resources and annual training.
  
• Key Cases:
  • Aroldis Chapman (2016): 30-game suspension (choking incident; no charges).
    
  • Trevor Bauer (2022): 194-game suspension (sexual assault allegations; no charges; effectively sidelined).
    
  • Roberto Osuna (2018): 75-game suspension (assault; traded to Astros during suspension).
    
  • Jose Torres (2019): 100-game suspension (longest under policy; no return).
    
• Trends: 13 suspensions since 2015; only 2 led to criminal sentences. Policy criticized for allowing teams to sign offenders (e.g., Osuna).
  

NHL

• Policy: No formal policy; case-by-case (e.g., under public image clause). Training started 2016.
  
• Key Cases:
  • Slava Voynov (2014–2019): Full 2019–20 season suspension (misdemeanor; returned to Russia; no U.S. reinstatement).
    
  • Austin Watson (2018): 27-game suspension (misdemeanor assault; reduced on appeal).
    
• Trends: Lowest incidents; criticized for lack of structure (e.g., no automatic bans).
  

Has Anybody Been Banned? Why Not More Often?

• Yes, but rarely permanent: Full bans (lifetime or indefinite, effectively ending careers) occurred in ~5–10 cases across leagues:
  • NFL: Ray Rice (indefinite, 2014); potential for second offenses (none enforced yet).
    
  • NBA/MLB: None permanent; longest is Bauer's 194 games (MLB, ~1.2 seasons).
    
  • NHL: Voynov (season-long, leading to exile).
    
  • Reasons for bans: Video evidence (e.g., Rice, Hunt) or repeat offenses. These deterred returns due to public backlash and team reluctance.
    
• Why not more?
  • Legal hurdles: Policies allow appeals (e.g., Elliott's reduced); many cases lack convictions (victim non-cooperation in ~70% of dismissals). Leagues prioritize "fair process" over zero-tolerance.
    
  • Business incentives: High-value players (e.g., Watson, Osuna) are signed post-suspension for talent. Conviction rates low (~18% for athletes vs. 80% general population).
    
  • Policy gaps: NHL's case-by-case approach lacks teeth; NFL/MLB/NBA focus on suspensions (avg. 4–10 games) for rehabilitation, not expulsion. Critics argue this signals leniency, perpetuating a "boys will be boys" culture.
    
  • Progress: Arrests declined (NFL: halved since 2014); leagues fund hotlines (~$10M NFL) and training. Public pressure (e.g., #WhyIStayed) drives change, but experts call for mandatory criminal referrals and lifetime bans for convictions.
    

Overall, while cases persist, leagues' responses have toughened since 2015, emphasizing prevention over punishment.

[putnam6]

I kind of am pissed granted it's just nickel and dime plays, but I used Rozier a lot on Fan Duel and Draft Kings, he was cheap and normally decent for the price 
 

 
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MJTruthUltra

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Anyone using Sports Betting Apps Should be PISSED!!! NBA Players Altered their Performance, Faked Injuries and Illnesses, to Manipulate Prop Bets on Sports Betting Platforms “They placed wagers on unders, for players to score less, rebound less, assist less, using information that was not yet public.. In some instances players altered their performance or took themselves out of games to make sure those bets paid out.” One example, March 23, 2023: — Terry Rozier playing for the Hornets let others close to him know that he planned to leave the game early with a supposed injury. Using that information, members of the group placed more than $200k on wagers on his under statistics. Rozier exited the game just under 9 minutes and those bets paid out. The group later met at his home where the group counted their cash. Now… think about not just the NBA, but also NFL, College Sports etc… You ever wonder why your favorite athlete underperforms some nights? This is why..
 

[Moon68]

I kind of am pissed granted it's just nickel and dime plays, but I used Rozier a lot on Fan Duel and Draft Kings, he was cheap and normally decent for the price