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**andy06shake** · 10-31-2025, 05:53 AM

(10-31-2025, 05:40 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: If a school has an agenda they are carrying out other than just proper education .. then that school can do more harm than good. It's SMART to look at the politics of the school and the staff.

For instance - Berkeley. Even if it were free I wouldn't have sent my daughter there. Mindless left wing indoctrination to the point where when people hear the name of the school, they just laugh. Same with Bob Jones University for the other side. Intolerant, shove Christ down your throat and hate those who don't think like you, indoctrination center.

If a person doesn't check the politics of the school before going, then they are wasting their money and probably subjecting themselves to mental harm.

Again, university must be very different.

Our colleges and universities are all about diversity and inclusiveness.

With people coming from all over the globe to attend certain prestigious establishments.

They don't discriminate against the likes of politics and/or religious temperament.

I'm sure there may be some, but for the most part, that's not how i remember the places.

Over here, university is about a tertiary education, politics not so much.

I mean, you can get involved in politics and religion if you so choose, but i seem to recall those are not the classes or clubs that filled up much.

FlyersFan · 10-31-2025, 05:58 AM

(10-31-2025, 05:53 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Over here, university is about a tertiary education, politics not so much.

Over here they CLAIM it's about education, but the politics (or religion), gets woven into everything and the schools are notably intolerant of those who don't agree with the schools politics (or religious) stand. Over here ... not investigating this before signing up for a school is insane.

**andy06shake** · 10-31-2025, 06:02 AM

(10-31-2025, 05:58 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Over here they CLAIM it's about education, but the politics (or religion), gets woven into everything and the schools are notably intolerant of those who don't agree with the schools politics (or religious) stand. Over here ... not investigating this before signing up for a school is insane.

Well, feck paying to learn and or be indoctrinated about or into something i did not sign up for if you know what i mean.

I thought the USA had some of the best universities and educational establishments in the world.

You're not making it sound that way, Flyers.

FlyersFan · 10-31-2025, 06:10 AM

(10-31-2025, 06:02 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I thought the USA had some of the best universities and educational establishments in the world.

They have the best name brand.
But they are all indoctrination centers.
The politics (or religion) enters everything.
Even the teachers in the classroom let it seep in to what they are teaching.
And if you dare to have a different view than what is going on
you will find yourself 'on the outside' on campus or you will
find your grades suffer, etc etc.
You find that you get indoctrinated .. or you pretend to be
so you get your good grades and degree.
This is the way it is with a majority of the big name universities.
That's why I say it's smart to know the politics and leaning
of the university before you agree to go.

quintessentone · This post was last modified: 10-31-2025, 06:11 AM by quintessentone.

(10-30-2025, 10:31 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I thought that maybe I should offer up this thread for discussion elsewhere... within the "political" world of Deny Politics... but I'm strictly interested in another question...

Why list "Liberal Colleges" in the first place? Are they not institutions of higher learning...
or are they actually activist indoctrination camps?

I mean... this is clearly Press-Release journalism with prominent entries like:
[Edit to add: I get the distinct impression that this is an example of an AI-assisted work.]

Clearly it's a "virtue" listing...
10 Most Liberal Colleges Prioritizing Community and Experience

American University, Washington, D.C.
Hampshire College, Massachusetts
Sarah Lawrence College, New York
Oberlin College, Ohio
Mount Holyoke College, Massachusetts
Bennington College, Vermont
Bard College, New York
Brown University, Rhode Island
University of California, Berkeley, California
Boston University, Massachusetts

Are they actually advertising they focus on something other than being a good doctor, lawyer, businessman, or other 'social currency?'

I really don't get it.

Why would any other university or college stand to be excluded from caring about those things... but offering a solid education instead? ... Oh yeah.... they don't do that, do they?

Take CalTech as an example...this is their activism history:

"Caltech opened its doors to female undergraduates during the presidency of Harold Brown in 1970, and they made up 14% of the entering class.[sup][45][/sup] The portion of female undergraduates has been increasing since then.[sup][4][/sup]

Protests by Caltech students are rare.[sup][46][/sup] The earliest was a 1968 protest outside the NBC Burbank studios, in response to rumors that NBC was to cancel Star Trek. In 1973, the students from Dabney House protested a presidential visit with a sign on the library bearing the simple phrase "Impeach Nixon". The following week, Ross McCollum, president of the National Oil Company, wrote an open letter to Dabney House stating that in light of their actions he had decided not to donate one million dollars to Caltech. The Dabney family, being Republicans, disowned Dabney House after hearing of the protest.[sup][47]|[/sup]

California Institute of Technology - Wikipedia

Do you see how easy it is to become labelled as something you are not, or how easy it is to take something out of context?

**andy06shake** · 10-31-2025, 06:19 AM

(10-31-2025, 06:10 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: They have the best name brand.
But they are all indoctrination centers.
The politics (or religion) enters everything.
Even the teachers in the classroom let it seep in to what they are teaching.
And if you dare to have a different view than what is going on
you will find yourself 'on the outside' on campus or you will
find your grades suffer, etc etc.
You find that you get indoctrinated .. or you pretend to be
so you get your good grades and degree.
This is the way it is with a majority of the big name universities.
That's why I say it's smart to know the politics and leaning
of the university before you agree to go.

What would be smart, or so it seems to me, would be to leave politics and religion out of tertiary education.

Unless, of course, said education is about politics or religion.

UltraBudgie · 10-31-2025, 06:25 AM

(10-31-2025, 06:19 AM)andy06shake Wrote: What would be smart, or so it seems to me, would be to leave politics and religion out of tertiary education.

Unless, of course, said education is about politics or religion.

It seeps into everything.

Take a quick look at the new releases from Yale University Press:
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/books/new-releases/

Now, I like YUP, they're one of my favourite publishers. They put out some great books. But you can clearly see the ideological influences threading through their catalogue.

**andy06shake** · 10-31-2025, 06:37 AM

(10-31-2025, 06:25 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It seeps into everything.

Quite possibly, i mean the world has spun.

But the way i remember my former uni years.

Aside from the coursework, which could be a chore and a half, if you let it get on top of you.

It was all about meeting new people, diversity, inclusiveness.....and ecst@sy more than anything else.

Then again, that was the mid to late 90s, and Scotland, as opposed to America.

FlyersFan · 10-31-2025, 06:45 AM

(10-31-2025, 06:19 AM)andy06shake Wrote: What would be smart, or so it seems to me, would be to leave politics and religion out of tertiary education.

It would be smart to leave politics out, but the left demands it permeates everything so they flood the colleges with their version of it. The right usually doesn't because that's how the right operates ... they sit on their couches and watch sitcom re-runs.

As for religion, I don't mind if the school does it AND advertises as a religious institution because then you know up front exactly what it is. It's when it's preached at schools that are supposed to be secular that the problem exists.

**andy06shake** · 10-31-2025, 07:03 AM

(10-31-2025, 06:45 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: It would be smart to leave politics out, but the left demands it permeates everything so they flood the colleges with their version of it. The right usually doesn't because that's how the right operates ... they sit on their couches and watch sitcom re-runs.

As for religion, I don't mind if the school does it AND advertises as a religious institution because then you know up front exactly what it is. It's when it's preached at schools that are supposed to be secular that the problem exists.

Again, and just my opinion, but I don’t imagine university should be about politics or religion any more than primary or secondary school.

At least not in this imperfect world.

I would suggest, all the same, that the picture is bigger than the left-vs-right mentality most people imagine wags the dog's tail.

Money talks, Flyers, the rest is really just window dressing for the masses.

Divide and conquer 101, really, and that's what religion and politics are all about.