More than 50 countries have reached out to the President to begin tariff negotiations

[IDELB2006]

Just because you suggest you weren't far off, doesn't make it true

I didn't SAY, SUGGEST, or infer I expected $2000-$3000 in losses in 12 months because of tariffs, and then hope to recoup in the rise of the Trump economy

I did say I expect no losses because in the modest rise in CPI these first 6 months, whatever losses we do have will be more than covered by our significantly lower gasoline prices in the southern region of the US.

The premise of the thread was that the worst-case scenario would be IMMEDIATE run-away inflation, FOLLOWED BY long-term losses as countries charged reciprocal tariffs

That hasn't happened, Captain, at least not in my world, and I sincerely hope it doesn't happen in yours.

Retire?

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Pretty sure I'll be working in some way, shape, or form, right till I croak, it isn't in the cards
to be able to voluntarily retire

I can eat beans and rice, atleast for a while

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Oh well, I provided the link to what you said. here I can quote your words if it helps.

Your post

How are we screwed? 

These negotiations are driven by Trump’s “Fair and Reciprocal Plan on Trade,” which imposes tariffs to address trade deficits and non-tariff barriers, with a 90-day pause (ending early July 2025) for most countries except China. Its May we got 60 days.

Ive theorized in this thread, for example, if the Chinese tariff continued at the raised rate the the average American household would see an extra 900-1200 dollars A YEAR cost. As Ive mentioned over and over, his prescription medicine bill we save my household double that, throw in our savings on petrol, we will easily be ahead of the game for 2025 and 2026 YMMV. 

You are speaking emotionally, WCSWNFB, while Im speaking economically and logically, that sooner or later the 7-8 major trade countries will have trade deals with the US, till then TPTB will operate under temporary agreements.

Bold mine.

Edit: Now you can quote where I said $2k-$3k captain?

[putnam6]

Oh well, I provided the link to what you said. here I can quote your words if it helps.

Your post

Bold mine.

Edit: Now you can quote where I said $2k-$3k captain?

First of all, Captain

This was in reference to China only. Secondly, this was on 5/21, which was 2 months ago. 

Those rates were based on the temporary 90-day Chinese tariff rates, Yes or No

and

The dollars theorized were $900-$1200, half of your quoted $2000-$3000, Yes or No


Here's the full post for further context

How are we screwed? 

These negotiations are driven by Trump’s “Fair and Reciprocal Plan on Trade,” which imposes tariffs to address trade deficits and non-tariff barriers, with a 90-day pause (ending early July 2025) for most countries except China. Its May we got 60 days.


Ive theorized in this thread, for example, if the Chinese tariff continued at the raised rate the the average American household would see an extra 900-1200 dollars A YEAR cost. As Ive mentioned over and over, his prescription medicine bill we save my household double that, throw in our savings on petrol, we will easily be ahead of the game for 2025 and 2026 YMMV. 

You are speaking emotionally, WCSWNFB, while Im speaking economically and logically, that sooner or later the 7-8 major trade countries will have trade deals with the US, till then TPTB will operate under temporary agreements.

 

[IDELB2006]

First of all, Captain

This was in reference to China only. Secondly, this was on 5/21, which was 2 months ago. 

Those rates were based on the temporary 90-day Chinese tariff rates, Yes or No

and

The dollars theorized were $900-$1200, half of your quoted $2000-$3000, Yes or No


Here's the full post for further context

I see your still having trouble quoting me where I said $2000-$3000. It must be your made up number sounds better to you.

So its like it appears then. Just more hand waving of the previous hand waving of the affect of tariffs on the average American. Got it.

[putnam6]

I see your still having trouble quoting me where I said $2000-$3000. It must be your made up number sounds better to you.

So its like it appears then. Just more hand waving of the previous hand waving of the affect of tariffs on the average American. Got it.

LOL, everybody handwaves and theorizes on a message board, its what they are for...#1

And #2, you are spending way too much time being concerned about what a putz like me thinks, 

Misquoting 900-1200 to 2000-3000 its highly possible... especially from a post from 2 months ago... I multitask while I post a lot, 

Is that what's got you in such a blustery, frustrated lather? For that, I apologize

Hell, I post to waste time waiting for my real life to happen, I forget people take this BS to heart. 

 Still at my THEORIZED $900-$2000 a year extra expense it STILL doesn't equal the predicted IMMEDIATE financial calamity, runaway inflation, which is the overall concern and overall theme of the thread.

This remains my concern because I semi-need a good next 6 months economically, and the predicted immediate runaway inflation would cripple my industry. I have also posted this throughout the thread. I prefer to remain optimistic rather than automatically assuming Trump's tariffs will herald a new depression. Therefore, my posts and comments will try and highlight the potential positives of Trump's moves as opposed to those nagging negative worries and concerns. Don't get me wrong, I know they are real but I try and illustrate why I think they are manageable even in my situation. 

As always, YMMV; there are too many variables involved,what works for my situation, might not work for yours, hell, even the so-called experts are split on what the world's economy has in store.

Life is challenging enough on its own, I can't be too concerned about WCSWNFB 

I am extremely flattered you remembered and searched for my post from 2 months ago... 

[quintessentone]

LOL, everybody handwaves and theorizes on a message board, its what they are for...#1

And #2, you are spending way too much time being concerned about what a putz like me thinks, 

Misquoting 900-1200 to 2000-3000 its highly possible... especially from a post from 2 months ago... I multitask while I post a lot, 

Is that what's got you in such a blustery, frustrated lather? For that, I apologize

Hell, I post to waste time waiting for my real life to happen, I forget people take this BS to heart. 

 Still at my THEORIZED $900-$2000 a year extra expense it STILL doesn't equal the predicted IMMEDIATE financial calamity, runaway inflation, which is the overall concern and overall theme of the thread.

This remains my concern because I semi-need a good next 6 months economically, and the predicted immediate runaway inflation would cripple my industry. I have also posted this throughout the thread. I prefer to remain optimistic rather than automatically assuming Trump's tariffs will herald a new depression.

Life is challenging enough on its own, I can't be too concerned about WCSWNFB 

I am extremely flattered you remembered and searched for my post from 2 months ago... 

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People can like you but not certain behaviours of yours, which is what the poster was pointing out.

Sure, remain optimistic and hopeful but don't dismiss cold hard facts that may point to the contrary.

This video shows what other EU countries think of this trade deal.




The thing is that we, global countries, all need to trade with each other considering isolationist ideals just won't work at this point in time; there really isn't a choice, as far as I can see.

[quintessentone]

Some say, EU/USA deal is the best deal it can under difficult circumstances, other call it a 'dark' day.




Here come the discrepancies of this deal:

[quintessentone]

Most of tariffs are not being collected at this point, but when they do what can be expected with hikes of up to 19%? It's a guessing game at this point.

[putnam6]

People can like you but not certain behaviours of yours, which is what the poster was pointing out.

Sure, remain optimistic and hopeful but don't dismiss cold hard facts that may point to the contrary.

Yeah, I think some take this DI message board WAY more seriously than I do...
 

It's just my opinion, on the good message boards, there will be a variety of opinions, and they may be presented in a variety of different ways...but

I'd counter that concerns aren't facts 

Show me the cold, hard facts that we will have runaway inflation because of Trump's tariffs?

It hasn't materialized, no matter who is predicting it.

2.9% fluctuation in prices doesn't equal the predicted runaway fears expressed here, remains my point. 

AND THE POINT OF THE THREAD... which

It is not about critiquing one's behaviors either

Certain behaviors.... who died and made you hall monitor

That's basically how the world is...

If we could eliminate every person's "certain behaviors," the world would be a happier place. 

Sounds like a Carlin bit. but

If we could eliminate Trump's certain behaviors, for instance, wouldn't he be a more likable guy?

If we could eliminate some of my certain behaviors, I'd have fewer exes and more LTR successes 


The problem is that "certain behaviors" is subjective. 

Perhaps

If certain behaviors of an unknown poster on a message board bother a person to such a degree...
It would be more effective to look inward instead of projecting outward.

Perhaps situations like this call for an ignore button...

Thankfully, the DIPTBs have given us this capability...

[quintessentone]

Yeah, I think some take this DI message board WAY more seriously than I do...
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It's just my opinion, on the good message boards, there will be a variety of opinions, and they may be presented in a variety of different ways...but

I'd counter that concerns aren't facts 

Show me the cold, hard facts that we will have runaway inflation because of Trump's tariffs?

It hasn't materialized, no matter who is predicting it.

2.9% fluctuation in prices doesn't equal the predicted runaway fears expressed here, remains my point. 

AND THE POINT OF THE THREAD... which

It is not about critiquing one's behaviors either

Certain behaviors.... who died and made you hall monitor

That's basically how the world is...

If we could eliminate every person's "certain behaviors," the world would be a happier place. 

Sounds like a Carlin bit. but

If we could eliminate Trump's certain behaviors, for instance, wouldn't he be a more likable guy?

If we could eliminate some of my certain behaviors, I'd have fewer exes and more LTR successes 
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The problem is that "certain behaviors" is subjective. 

Perhaps

If certain behaviors of an unknown poster on a message board bother a person to such a degree...
It would be more effective to look inward instead of projecting outward.

Perhaps situations like this call for an ignore button...

Thankfully, the DIPTBs have given us this capability...

We always jump the gun when it comes to the effects of tariffs. The known effects now are the up and down market reactions as well as corporate moves.

The actual reality is that tariffs have not yet been implemented, well at least for most things. Once they do, then let's have a real discussion.

As for being hall monitor, I calls 'em as I sees 'em, Captain. Isn't that what we are calling each other now on your thread? 

Counter points can indeed be actual cold, hard facts but you have already decided that they can only be counter concerns. Perhaps at this point in time, some can be just guesses, but I see you jumping through source hoops to try to prove your points that have counter sources debunking your claims, which you dismiss outright without discussion. Or what that other poster said, that you respond with incorrect information that the poster did not post, which helps your case. See where this is going?

So now you want an ignore button for your threads? Well that would certainly make it easier for you to discuss topics with yourself.

[putnam6]

No further questions... your Honor



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