Quakers and Cheese

[Sirius]

Monday, November 25, 1991, was a typically cold Winters's day in Lincoln, Nebraska. Yet the biting weather was the vary last thing on the mind  when I started reading this book because it was immediately apparent that what was to follow would be a story.

Final Events and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife Hardcover – August 5, 2013  Nick Redfern


Who are the 'Collins Elite'?

The rabbit hole starts with one Boeche "the founder and former director of the Fortean Research Center, a former Nebraska State Director for the Mutual UFO Network, and the recipient of a B.A. from Peru State College and a Th.M. degree from St. Mark’s School of Divinity."

Apparently two physicists told him

Most of it was related to psychotronic weaponry and remote viewing, and even deaths by what were supposed to be psychic methods.” Certainly, the NHEs, it was deduced by those attached to the DoD project, possessed extraordinary, and lethal, mental powers. And, as a result, deeper plans were initiated, using nothing less than ancient rites and black rituals, to actually try and contact the NHEs with two specific—some might say utterly crackpot—goals in mind: (1) controlling them and (2) exploiting their extraordinary mental powers in the form of devastating weaponry.

It's worth saying that everything is highly suspect from the get go, the whole setup of how Mr Redfern got to make contact with the 'whistle blowers' is highly dubious and I'm pretty sure he agrees.

So let's have a look at how the group came to because there is allot of rumors and as hopefully every is catching on these days, nobody reads source material and just reacts to content, fucking mockingbirds. Are they really religious zealots? Apparently no, well not when they started out at least. They started as just another black project

“We all got an offer to relocate, with our families, to the D.C. area. The funding, we were told, was going to start coming through in a few months, after everyone was settled in D.C. The money and resources wasn’t [sic] going to come exactly to us, but onto us through the [CIA’s] Directorate of Plans [which was created a few months later, on August 1, 1952] to keep it all out of everyone’s eyes—Congress. This wasn’t really the Directorate’s area at all though. It was more along the approach of flowing the money through them to us, a group no one would think to look at to find us.

And how did the name come to be?

“Our Quaker friend told us Collins was a little place where it was said everyone used to work making cheese. But, here he was helping the suits and the military on figuring out Parsons. So, we joked with him that because he was one of the few people who wasn’t in cheese, he was the ‘elite of Collins’ and that kind of stuck and got used.”

“So, we picked on the old joke about the Quaker, and it led to Collins Elite as an informal name we chose. And that’s how we got started, and what we used to identify us, and for when we were speaking with NSA and the Company [meaning the CIA] and all those people. But Parsons is definitely what began it for us. He died and we got moving.”(6)

I don't want to quote too much at this stage so I'm just going to say they where formed in order to investigate what was going on with Crowley and Parsons and friends. There where strange sightings in the skies and on radar etc. (UFO's/ORBS - orbs notably amongst them). The air force wanted to investigate, air force intelligence started the operation/program and also set the meetings in motion with Mr Redfern after he made a call to the right (or wrong) person.

There are quotes from other sources, actual occult sources and books from the 'orders ' where they also talk about the strange happening in the sky after Crowley and Parsons deaths. It's documented in more places than one. This is where we must keep track of dates. This book was written just before 2013 or came out then, and as per the opening line this story starts in 1991 and the mid 2000's are also mentioned. People within the orders worked with or for intelligence agencies, this is well known, but not to laymen, now you know. Crowley's involvement with MI5 is mentioned in this book, however briefly

Something to help you sleep tonight

As a result, on January 9, 1952, Parsons was informed by one J. Mason, the Chairman of the Industrial Employment Review Board, that:

The board has decided as of 7 January 1952 to revoke the clearance granted you through top secret of 7 March 1949, and to withdraw access by you to Department of Defense classified information and/or material. The foregoing and all the evidence in the case file, when considered with the duties and responsibilities of any position in which you may be engaged with Department of Defense classified contract work, indicate that you might voluntarily or involuntarily act against the security interest of the United States and constitute a danger to the national security. (4)

Parsons’ security clearance may have been revoked, but the government was very far from finished with him. Actually, matters had barely begun.

Did you get that? "voluntarily or involuntarily .. constitute a danger to the national security." Involuntarily...become a danger to national security and then what? Examples are made, threats are mitigated, I don't know, one can guess. It is argued he was going to leak secrets to Israel

the FBI recorded: “[Parsons] voluntarily came to the Los Angeles office, September 27, 1950 and in [a] signed statement admitted removing documents without authority stating he desired to extract certain information from them as aid in computing [the] cost proposal on jet propulsion motors. He planned to submit this with [an] employment application through American Technion Society for employment in the country of Israel.”

Interesting account here in the book from a pilot on a UFO sighting

Wash: Yes, well the Center has about four or five around the Andrews Range Station. The Center is working a National Airlines—the Center is working him and vectoring him around his target. He went around Andrews. He saw one of them—looks like a meteor…went by him…or something. He said he’s got one about three miles off his right wing right now. There are so many targets around here it is hard to tell as they are not moving very fast.

edit: August 25, 2010 for the book, new edition was eleased August 5, 2013

[Sirius]

Forbidden Science 6

Hummingbird. Sunday 29 April 2012.

Concerned about silence among our once-busy team, I found out that BAASS was neither dead nor alive, still looking for a home. The plan retains credibility in Congress. The intricacies of the bureaucracy are the source of the delay. “Questions of timing, and also of what could happen in the future, determine who gets money.” “It’s likely there will not be just a single contract to one project, as in the past,” I was told. “Contracts may go to Dr. Green, to us, and to you at your company. Bob is busy with his space station; the old staff is gone.” This means Capella is no longer maintained, a real shame. We returned to the topic of Mrs. X who once claimed there once was a reverse-engineering project at TRW, called Zodiac. Her background is verified (including her badge number at Area 51). The Collins Elite was involved as early as the 1970s. She felt the topic was becoming too weird…there were twin aspects in the phenomenon: (i) a nuts-and bolts, spacecraft aspect and (ii) an ancient control system manipulating religious ideologies…”I’ve been coming closer to your view, in recent times,” my friend said with reluctant laughter.

We got BAAS (Robert Bigelow ) there and project Zodiac and Aeea 51

Mabillon. Sunday 16 December 2012.

Yesterday, the baptism of my grandson. Today, Christmas carols at the American cathedral, with Flamine. The various threads of messages among the LoneStars have taken a strange turn: The roots of the Collins Elite started in the 70s and originated at Fordham. An examination of that University’s Trustees from the late 60s gives an interesting mix: many linked to senior Intelligence officers including some 4-Stars, CIA directors, and Ambassador Alonzo MacDonald.

We have the rerelease of the final events in August 2013 and this in March 2013

Hummingbird. Wednesday 6 March 2013.

We’re ready for the fourth LoneStars meeting in Houston, and things are heating up. The uncovering of the Collins Elite by writer Nick Redfern has led Kit to consider approaching Father Boeche and former White House Staff Director for Jimmy Carter, Alonzo McDonald, for background insight. I called him today, eager to clarify a few items that don’t deserve to take our time face-to-face in Houston next week.

I thought it was two physicists, intelligence agents?

Austin. Wednesday 15 October 2014.

This led us back to speak of the Collins Elite. Father Ray Boeche, an Anglican Catholic priest, was once visited by two Intelligence agents who spoke of their contact with aliens, “devils in disguise.”

[Sirius]

Had to look up quakers because I don't know anything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers

Some 11% practice waiting worship or unprogrammed worship (commonly Meeting for Worship),[13] where the unplanned order of service is mainly silent and may include unprepared vocal ministry from those present.

feels familiar
 
AI overview from google search on Quakers.

Key Aspects of Quakerism:

• Beliefs & Worship:
  • Quakers believe in continuing revelation, meaning God speaks directly to individuals today. Worship often involves sitting in silence, waiting for inspiration from the Holy Spirit, and sharing messages if moved to do so.
    
• "Inner Light" & Equality:
  • This core belief suggests that of God exists in everyone, leading to a strong, historic testimony for equality and testimonies against violence (pacifism).
    
• History:
  • Emerging in the 1650s as a "non-conforming" sect in England, they were persecuted, leading many to move to America, where William Penn established Pennsylvania as a haven of religious tolerance.
    
• Social Activism:
  • Quakers have a long history of activism, including prison reform, abolition of slavery, and peace testimony. The American Friends Service Committee and the British Friends Service Council were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1947.
    
• Modern Quakerism:
  • While many practice silent worship, some, particularly in parts of Africa, Asia, and America, have pastoral services similar to Protestantism. 
    

Seems like the right kind of group that would take Jack and friends seriously, Mormons also. I wonder what's happening in scientology.

[Britseye]

Wow. Very well laid out OP, thank you, I will look later. When I saw your title, I immediately remembered the Quaker cheese factory I visited at Monteverde, Costa Rica, back in 2001. Don't suppose that's relevant to your post, but just thought you might like to know

[Sirius]

Oh no, it's the Kuuuuuu!! 



The snake flits nocturnally “like a meteor”. When it reaches sparsely inhabited regions it descends and “eats the brains of men”.

A spirit similar to the chin-tsan-ku
appears in the form of a
toad or frog.

Both the batrachian and the ophidian forms are
familiar to sorcerers as totems of the Deep Ones and of the
Great Old Ones. It is worth noting here that the Ku, like the
UFO, seems to ayoid populous areas. It lands or earths itself in
deserted regions. Another similarity with UFO lore is that the
occupants of such crafts sometimes abscond with various parts
of the human body.’ The ancient Chinese were compelled to
embody their observations in a ‘magical’ context for want of
terms to describe phenomena of extraterrestrial origin.
The insistence on insect symbolism is highly significant in view of the
humming sound believed to herald the proximity or advent of
the Old Ones.”
There is yet another type of Ka. It was fabled to excrete gold
and silver and to dart about nocturnally, like lightning. “A
great noise causes it to fall”, UFOs also are said to fall in a
great rush of sound. Furthermore, “it may be a snake, toad, or
any kind of insect or reptile”. It is kept by its votaries in a secret room,
and is fed by the women. However, it is formed of
pure Yin which is a figurative manner of saying that it is a
vampire KG which lives on menstrual blood. It is also said in
this connection that the Ki which devours men will excrete
gold, while that which devours women will excrete silver. The
key to this saying is to be sought in the symbolism of Chinese
alchemy and interpreted in the light of the Ophidian Gnosis. 

 

It also indicates some of the more pertinent researches
of Ufologists who suggest - perhaps with more likelihood than
they, even, might care to admit - that the entities visualized by
Crowley, Lovecraft, Castaneda, Bertiaux, and others, really do
exist somewhere and at some time, and that they occasionally put
in an appearance here on earth.

Here is the quote I was actually looking for 1992 - Hecate's Fountain - Kenneth Grant

Crowley may have had in mind this complex when he wrote
his comment on verse 34, chapter 4, of Liber LXV.° However
that may be, in Magick Without Tears, he recorded unequivocally his belief that humanity is on the threshold of traffic with
alien entities. Such traffic, although of a one-way nature, occurred in 1947 (the year of Crowley’s death) in the form of
massive UFO activity and other inexplicable phenomena. But it
came too late for Crowley to be able to reformulate in more
precise terms his “prime postulate of religion”,’! and to demonstrate “the more than human power of Aiwass”,?? which he
spent his life attempting to prove. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Grant_(occultist)

Kenneth Grant (23 May 1924 – 15 January 2011) was an English ceremonial magician, novelist, and advocate of the Thelemic religion. A poet, novelist, and writer, he founded his own Thelemic organisation, the Typhonian Ordo Templi Orientis, later renamed the Typhonian Order—with his wife Steffi Grant.

This pretty much sums up where we are heading here and what the air force intelligence was investigating or not investigating, I'm sure they will neither deny or confirm it. You might get a phone call if you asked.

The Holy Graal also is associated with changing colours. A graal
is a ‘shallow dish’ or ‘saucer’, and it is significant that the type of the
Goddess is the disc, the whirling wheel that spins when the akashic
current - of which the chakra is a nerve-zone -is magically activated.
Orange-red, or scarlet is a colour predominant in UFO sightings,
and Babalon - the Scarlet Woman -has the same number
(156) as the sum of the initials UFO. Michael Bertiaux sees in
the UFO phenomena an expression of the basic chakra of the
primordial Space Goddess, Aditi, who is the dynamic (or feminine) form of Hadit.
The UFO sometimes comes from the
sky; the Graal also is said to have come from the sky. Students
of the Graal Cycle know that the Holy Vessel appeared in five
major shapes, three of which are described as a chalice, a stone
(sapphirus), and an altar. The Welsh recension of the Cycle alludes
to St. Carannox, to whom “Christ gave an honourable altar
from on high, the colour of which no person could comprehend”.
This curious sentence contains two suggestions relevant to the
present context: “the altar from on high” and the colour “which
no person could comprehend”. 

Back to the final events

Yes on the later parts mentioned. You don't need drugs (but they do work in a wat) or hypnotism. Someone should really look into that hypnotism business with memory regression. Looks hell of dodge to me 

the likes of Budd Hopkins, the late Dr. John Mack, and historian David Jacobs. And, it is worth noting, countless abductees only recall their encounters with these black-eyed, gray entities after they have been hypnotically regressed, in other words, when they are in an altered form of consciousness. Yet again, then, we see that trance-like states—not at all unlike those generated during the Amalantrah Working—are very often the triggering factors that succeed in granting access to the world of these strange, unearthly intelligences.

A∴A∴ (Argenteum Astrum): The initials of the Order of the
Silver Star. The Star is Sirius, or Sothis, the Star of Set. The two
‘A’s have the value of two ‘ones’ read as eleven, the number of
Magick and of the Qliphoth. They typify the raised stones or
pillars emblematic of Set as the Devil, or Double; hence the
Double Current (q.v.).

Aditi (Skt): The Goddess of Space. 

Hru (Th): The Angel presiding over the Tarot. The latter com-
prises the celestial power-zones visualized in the Book of Thoth
(Crowley’s recension is the most penetrating contemporary
visualization).
Hru has a markedly ‘ufological’ connotation, for the wheels, or discs,
which represent the power-zones of the Tarot are vortices of magical energy
Outside the Circles of Time (represented by the sephiroth).

Hrumachis (Eg): ‘Horus of the Star’. The Star is Sothis, or Set, and the title has emphatic ‘ufological’ implications. See A∴A∴

[Sirius]

Fresh cheese! Did someone mention Collins Elite?




Nice squares, double the trouble for sure

[Sirius]

oh gosh darn it, the book is boring as heck. It's not going to get any more interesting me thinks without spicing it up. It's all kind of silly anyway because the instructions is right there, you don't have to speculate.

[Sirius]

Tammy Stones story is interesting, it all happened in the early 70's (73). It sounds like she was drugged from her description of the kidnapping.

In reverse order, here are is a question that was asked of her by the Collins Elite/air force intelligence. Very strange questions to ask, feels specific and not unfamiliar. 




Here is the account of her "kidnapping




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[Sirius]

Yup nearing the end of the book and I'm just going pop this in here it's very much related and sycnrhnoicity

Leviticus
20,27 A man also or a woman that divineth by a ghost or a familiar spirit, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones; their blood shall be upon them. {P}

and some pages before

19,31 Turn ye not unto the ghosts, nor unto familiar spirits; seek them not out, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

I was reading this like yesterday actually...and was curious that everything seems to be mentioned twice, the first time was just like 'don't do these things' and the second time it was 'stop or you get a rock to the face'. I just got that kind of vibe to it and wanted to confirm.

Also Azazel!

16,7 And he shall take the two goats, and set them before the LORD at the door of the tent of meeting.
16,8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats: one lot for the LORD, and  the other lot for Azazel.
16,9 And Aaron shall present the goat upon which the lot fell for the LORD, and offer him for a sin-offering.
16,10 But the goat, on which the lot fell for Azazel, shall be set alive before the LORD, to make atonement over him, to send him away for Azazel into the  wilderness.