Mass psychosis and the double-slit experiment

[eriathwen]

This makes me think of the " Crab Bucket theory". 
It's like if anyone tries to use independent thoughts in action, society pulls them back down. 
I read recently that approximately 60% of the population wants to be told what to do. I think it's more than that. There must be a small percentage that would " fight back" against those pulling strings, because let's face it, we are here. But the 60% plus has become so violent in their gate keeping of their own personal little safe spaces, that it has become a deterrent to even those of us who would speak out and defend our rights against any threat.
You may be on to something with your particle theory, if in fact it could be responsible for hive mind behavior.
Just my two cents before coffee.

Thank you, and I absolutley agree with you on the  "Crab bucket theory" It seems that It is happening, and has been for many, many years. But I would like to point out one thing that might lighten things up a little, "the hundreth monkey phenomenon" and the baffeling way the creation has the tendecys to correct everything that is not sustainable in the long run, and the way this world is run and seemingly headed is sertanly not sustainable. The creation did not create the universe for a few "dusty fregments" to thrive ;) And natures way is a force to be reconed with

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Hi
I was thinking about the tendensis I see of people and how meny seem to be aware of the manipulation and propaganda from their government and the media/ influensers of any sort. They talk about alot of this every day, but when it comes to do something about it they very often cave. like for example, they seem to be aware of something pulling the strings to "force" an expected outcome. Take the last pandemic as an example... They know that it takes many years to develope a vaccine, and they are very firm in that understanding, when the pandemic hit and they started to talk about that pharma was working on a vaccine for this they (people)  was aware that this would take many years to develope due to strikt regulations regarding safety. And just 6 months later the vaccine was redy to be "tested" on a group of people, and 3 months after that they begun to mass vaccinate.... This is really hard to wrap your head arond.. And today I was thinking about stuff like that, not only this example but simmilar events that we are in a way "forced" into seemingly against people's wishes, and why this tends to happen like a textbook every time.. And suddenly it hit me that it's very simmilar to the one partical dobbel slit experiment... When noone is watching the partical forms a wawe pattern and and do their random thing, but when the partical is obcerved the particals are changing their prodectury into a "forced" pattern... I'm no scientist and dont know the correct terms to use for this, but I found this to be strikingly simmilar... And might explaine why people seem to so easily move against their own will in a way...

I would love to hear your taken  take on my thaughts


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The only thing I noticed was a goldfish memory and timeless organic processes of attempting collective self-regulation.

The virus hit. Trump did his light or warp speed mandate and the several companies raced to be first, with billions flowing in. His first year was before it really turned on the CDC.

During the first months of the pandemic, it had a quasi-9/11 unity feel to it. Every night for at least two months, the stir crazy folks on balconies all around me, from every building, would flash lights, launch fireworks, blare sirens, honk horns, and bang pot and pans like Vietnamese celebrating Tet.

When this became annoying I once ran out dead serious into the living room screaming at my roommates to get to the gate to protect it from the incoming VC.

But it was the same time every night. It was in solidarity with health care workers and essential workers.

Until it wasn't. Police brutality and too many waves and variants later and The CDC is just trying to get botched vaccines that cause heart attacks into everyone.

Doctors are the MOST cautious with disease. And the overbearing push was what happens when you put the most cautious profession in charge of the return to normal. Their PHDs said we need a vax to open theaters again. It's just how medical professionals are. They are the most likely to count how long they wash their hands.

Worst people to lead a rapid return. They were very easy to make villains for trying to control the hive mind with fact checks. Like vaccine safety for their mandated vaccines.

It has the hypochondria of a med student and the bureaucracy of government. A road to hell with most academic and healthy of intentions. More reactive than deliberate, no overlord needed.

Just one way for the wave of collective experience to collapse, I guess. But the universe may be uncomfortably prone to preferring a centered area where the unseen wave patten is most likely to end up when observed.

[eriathwen]

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Like that? Meme things need meme answers.

The only thing I noticed was a goldfish memory and timeless organic processes of attempting collective self-regulation.

The virus hit. Trump did his light or warp speed mandate and the several companies raced to be first, with billions flowing in. His first year was before it really turned on the CDC.

During the first months of the pandemic, it had a quasi-9/11 unity feel to it. Every night for at least two months, the stir crazy folks on balconies all around me, from every building, would flash lights, launch fireworks, blare sirens, honk horns, and bang pot and pans like Vietnamese celebrating Tet.

When this became annoying I once ran out dead serious into the living room screaming at my roommates to get to the gate to protect it from the incoming VC.

But it was the same time every night. It was in solidarity with health care workers and essential workers.

Until it wasn't. Police brutality and too many waves and variants later and The CDC is just trying to get botched vaccines that cause heart attacks into everyone.

Doctors are the MOST cautious with disease. And the overbearing push was what happens when you put the most cautious profession in charge of the return to normal. Their PHDs said we need a vax to open theaters again. It's just how medical professionals are. They are the most likely to count how long they wash their hands.

Worst people to lead a rapid return. They were very easy to make villains for trying to control the hive mind with fact checks. Like vaccine safety for their mandated vaccines.

It has the hypochondria of a med student and the bureaucracy of government. A road to hell with most academic and healthy of intentions. More reactive than deliberate, no overlord needed.

Just one way for the wave of collective experience to collapse, I guess. But the universe may be uncomfortably prone to preferring a centered area where the unseen wave patten is most likely to end up when observed.

Yes, I agree, I smelled the rat very early as I always do, when your getting used to see the patterns you can smell the rat coming long before you see it. But this post was not about the pandemic in it self, I was just the perfect example to use because It was so obvious how people react regardless of what they know, that's why the dobbel slit experiment hit me as a possible explanatione as to why people behave this way, I can be a bit messy when writing my sudden inpulses :)

[AccessDenied]

Thank you, and I absolutley agree with you on the  "Crab bucket theory" It seems that It is happening, and has been for many, many years. But I would like to point out one thing that might lighten things up a little, "the hundreth monkey phenomenon" and the baffeling way the creation has the tendecys to correct everything that is not sustainable in the long run, and the way this world is run and seemingly headed is sertanly not sustainable. The creation did not create the universe for a few "dusty fregments" to thrive ;) And natures way is a force to be reconed with

Ah yes...the hundredth monkey phenomenon . Didn't come to mind earlier but I agree with you.

[chr0naut]

Hi
I was thinking about the tendensis I see of people and how meny seem to be aware of the manipulation and propaganda from their government and the media/ influensers of any sort. They talk about alot of this every day, but when it comes to do something about it they very often cave. like for example, they seem to be aware of something pulling the strings to "force" an expected outcome. Take the last pandemic as an example... They know that it takes many years to develope a vaccine, and they are very firm in that understanding, when the pandemic hit and they started to talk about that pharma was working on a vaccine for this they (people)  was aware that this would take many years to develope due to strikt regulations regarding safety. And just 6 months later the vaccine was redy to be "tested" on a group of people, and 3 months after that they begun to mass vaccinate.... This is really hard to wrap your head arond.. And today I was thinking about stuff like that, not only this example but simmilar events that we are in a way "forced" into seemingly against people's wishes, and why this tends to happen like a textbook every time.. And suddenly it hit me that it's very simmilar to the one partical dobbel slit experiment... When noone is watching the partical forms a wawe pattern and and do their random thing, but when the partical is obcerved the particals are changing their prodectury into a "forced" pattern... I'm no scientist and dont know the correct terms to use for this, but I found this to be strikingly simmilar... And might explaine why people seem to so easily move against their own will in a way...

I would love to hear your taken  take on my thaughts

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A trained organism, in a controlled environment, does what it damn well pleases.



But I think the attribution of quantum level effects to macro level objects is a misapplication. They are quite separate domains.

Definitely, I have a belief that we use quantum state sensing within individual neurons, and this lends us either random, or perhaps a 'many-worlds' sensitive input to our neural network and therefore can subtly influence our top domain thought processes. But this is more a belief, than something that I can say is definite.

Oh, and by the way, the concept that vaccine development takes years is utter BS. Influenza mutates on a nearly annual season and they manage to come up with a new immunization within about 20 days of the identification of a new strain. The SARS coronaviruses were known to us for decades, and there had been work going on with mRNA as an immunizer since the 1970's. Also, technology has marched along apace. The Chinese uploaded the whole genome of SARS-CoV-2 to the GenBank database within 12 days of the identification that it was a new virus causing severe respiratory illness. It took longer than that just to give it a standardized name.

[chr0naut]

Sure knowledge is like a map—it gives you directions. Wisdom is like a compass that helps you navigate, even when the path changes unexpectedly. For example, if you only follow the map (knowledge) without thinking, you might get stuck when there’s roadwork or a detour. Wisdom, however, helps you adapt to new situations and find your way around the obstacle.

Wisdom is the ethically and morally guided application of a body of knowledge to individual situations.

[chr0naut]

um i think the analogy is to an internal compass, rather than something external that you consult for directions. trust in yourself and all that blah blah. probably a big stumbling block is the need for the world to either inform or conform.

"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, But he who heeds counsel is wise." Proverbs 12:15.

[Ray1990]

  Sorry I mean the other way aroud....it’s like people are stuck in this quantum weirdness: when they’re not under pressure, they’re aware, complaining, acting like particles with a solid position, all “I see the game, I’m done with it.” But the second the crisis—or the “observation”—hits, they collapse into a wave, spreading out, losing that clarity, and just flowing with the herd again.

Well, pretty much everything can be boiled down to 2 choices. Especially when society demands you comply, which it usually does. The wave to me would be the undecided fence sitters who haven't been put under observation enough to be made to make a choice.

"I did what was expected" is a true enough response from the majority, we all abide by rules and commitments we'd rather not. Admittedly when I look at history we're doing a lot of things that would've had people revolting in the past but their margins were a lot thinner for survival and people were held accountable with extreme prejudice. I find that funny how we've never been on safer shores to go around rocking the boat, yet we don't see that do we? Or do we?

The vast majority being educated is a new phenomena too, it's definitely worth considering how people are trained to operate in society but not necessarily to dissect it's meaning. We're all drinking the spirits of the time yet very few of us could operate a still without blowing ourselves up and who the hell wants to learn anyway? So dig in, the zeitgeist is uber fulfilling.

Then again is it zeitgeist to pick your battles wisely? Who am I to say Dolly Parton should've been singing about Pol Pot instead of women's equality with her 9-5 song. Maybe the ladies do protest too much but who would I be to say so and more to the point why should my grievances take precedent.

[BeyondKnowledge]

I think the op is confusing the double slit experiment with the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that the fact that it is being observed has an influence on the observation.

The double slit is just an experiment of waveform interference patterns. Although I think it is a four knife edge experiment observation.

[Nerb]

The double slit is just an experiment of waveform interference patterns. Although I think it is a four knife edge experiment observation.

I think it's a million commuters fighting for limited seats on a very long train with only two doors.