Make Them Ill On Purpose.

[Karl12]

Kill the Kuffar.

This is undercover in their own words lol


Never (ever) should you trust religious cults.


This Channel Four Dispatches documentary was held in the highest standard (just like BBC's Panorama) - now you can only find it on this link and they don't want anyone to watch it

In their own words (wahhabi/ deobandi)



https://www.bitchute.com/video/V31ZvoY3VMe2

[Randyvine]

Kill the Kuffar.

This is undercover in their own words lol


Never (ever) should you trust religious cults.


This Channel Four Dispatches documentary was held in the highest standard (just like BBC's Panorama) - now you can only find it on this link and they don't want anyone to watch it

In their own words (wahhabi/ deobandi)



https://www.bitchute.com/video/V31ZvoY3VMe2

Christians will die for you and what they believe.
Muslims will kill everyone including themselves for what they believe.

And those are the facts.

[midicon]

Kill the Kuffar.

This is undercover in their own words lol


Never (ever) should you trust religious cults.


This Channel Four Dispatches documentary was held in the highest standard (just like BBC's Panorama) - now you can only find it on this link and they don't want anyone to watch it

In their own words (wahhabi/ deobandi)



https://www.bitchute.com/video/V31ZvoY3VMe2

I can't view that from here in the UK but it's no nevermind for a fellow like me lol.

We live in a mad house and that's the truth. I don't get fussed or fazed by any of it. It's all par for the course. Religious nutjobs have been killing people since forever.

Having said that, if they didn't have religion they'd be killing you for something else.

[worldstarcountry]

Christians will die for you and what they believe.
Muslims will kill everyone including themselves for what they believe.

And those are the facts.

I will disagree with those facts as I do not see any citations. A very low frequency mindset to have. Let us discuss for instance a fairly common enough event in the USA that it has a specific term, Familicide. There are an estimated about 20+ cases per year. Nearly all Muslims who perpetuate crime get reported as such in the media often when it happens.

However when American men murder entire families, the news does not really bother to explain whether or not they were a regular attendee of a Christian church. Now these kinds of events in the USA are unfortunately not terribly uncommon. Any time a Muslim commits a murder, even when completely unrelated  to their alleged religion/faith it gets mentioned. But I rarely ever see that mentioned when I see a headline about an entire family murder. So who is murdering their entire families in the USA if it is not Muslims?

We need to go higher in our frequency, or we will be deceived by the evil of those who understand how to manipulate our frequencies.

[Randyvine]

I will disagree with those facts as I do not see any citations. A very low frequency mindset to have. Let us discuss for instance a fairly common enough event in the USA that it has a specific term, Familicide. There are an estimated about 20+ cases per year. Nearly all Muslims who perpetuate crime get reported as such in the media often when it happens.

However when American men murder entire families, the news does not really bother to explain whether or not they were a regular attendee of a Christian church. Now these kinds of events in the USA are unfortunately not terribly uncommon. Any time a Muslim commits a murder, even when completely unrelated  to their alleged religion/faith it gets mentioned. But I rarely ever see that mentioned when I see a headline about an entire family murder. So who is murdering their entire families in the USA if it is not Muslims?

We need to go higher in our frequency, or we will be deceived by the evil of those who understand how to manipulate our frequencies.

Okay, I get what you're saying as for the attention span of western media. 
But if we stick to the difference between the God of the Bible and Allah?
You have to admit to the difference between "Thou shalt not kill" and "kill
the infedel". The Bible would have us pray for the non believer the Quran
says to slaughter them. That kind of explodes in the face of even the Catholic
church and it's brutality which at least is it's own doing by those running it and
has nothing to do with scripture.

No way I won't stand by my remark as being self evident.

Do you believe those that manipulate our frequency are responsible for
evil. Or that evil is responsible for those that manipulate. Using different
words, do you believe evil would exist even if man did not?

[worldstarcountry]

Do you believe those that manipulate our frequency are responsible for
evil. Or that evil is responsible for those that manipulate. Using different
words, do you believe evil would exist even if man did not?

I think it is a force of negative charges that exists naturally in the universe, and if we allow our frequency to vibrate low enough, it will have an opportunity to "corrupt the charge" so to speak. Like it gravitates towards the weak low energy vibrations and then amplifies those frequencies, if that makes any sense. Vibrating higher can dissolve it away, but only if one has not fully committed to bringing every party they meet into their own misery and consciously chooses to rise above their misery. That would require some folks to admit they behave as shit human beings, and their ego may not be ready to accept that. 

Well IIRC from past discussions years prior, the term is not infidel but Kafir. Here is my counter from an internet query:

The Quran acknowledges Jews and Christians as "People of the Book." This designation reflects a level of respect and recognition of their beliefs. Muslims are encouraged to engage with these groups in a peaceful and respectful manner, promoting dialogue rather than conflict.

 The Arabic word commonly translated as “infidel” is “kafir,” which means “one who covers or conceals the truth.”

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:6-7)
“Indeed, those who disbelieve—it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them—they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.”
These verses highlight the stubbornness and obstinacy of some disbelievers, emphasizing that their hearts and senses are sealed from guidance. This divine seal signifies a spiritual state where their ability to perceive and accept the truth is hindered due to their persistent rejection.

 
Surah Al-Kafirun (109:1-6)
“Say, ‘O disbelievers, I do not worship what you worship. Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.'”This chapter emphasizes the clear distinction between the beliefs of Muslims and those of the disbelievers, promoting the idea of religious tolerance and peaceful coexistence. It underscores the principle that faith is a personal matter and should be respected as such.

Surah Al-Anfal (8:36-37)
“Indeed, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to avert [people] from the way of Allah. So they will spend it; then it will be for them a [source of] regret; then they will be overcome. And those who have disbelieved—to Hell they will be gathered. [This is] so Allah may distinguish the wicked from the good and place the wicked, some of them upon others and heap them all together and put them into Hell. It is those who are the losers.”
These verses describe the futile efforts of infidels to oppose Islam and highlight the ultimate consequences of their actions. Their endeavors, driven by hostility towards the faith, are destined to fail and bring about their own downfall.

I really enjoy this one because it reminds me of those CINO's (Christians in Name Only) who enjoy reminding folks about the torment and suffering awaiting for them in Hell

Surah An-Nisa (4:56)
“Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses—We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through, We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.”This verse vividly describes the torment awaiting infidels in the hereafter, serving as a stern warning against disbelief. The repeated mention of punishment underscores the seriousness of rejecting divine guidance.

Oh wait, I do recall you mentioning about praying for those non-believers? Why do the fanatics conveniently omit these parts of the Quran?

Despite the harsh consequences mentioned, the Quran also emphasizes compassion, mercy, and the importance of inviting infidels to the path of righteousness with wisdom and kindness. This balanced approach reflects the Quran’s overarching message of mercy and guidance for all of humanity.

Surah An-Nahl (16:125)
“Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided.”
This verse underscores the importance of using wisdom and good manners when calling others to Islam, reflecting the overall approach of the Quran in dealing with non-believers. It emphasizes that guidance is ultimately in Allah’s hands, and the role of believers is to convey the message in the best possible manner.
Surah Al-Mumtahina (60:8)“Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes—from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.”
This verse highlights the importance of justice and kindness in interactions with non-believers, promoting peaceful coexistence and mutual respect.

The Quran and Religious Freedom
The Quran acknowledges the freedom of belief and upholds the principle of “no compulsion in religion” as stated in Surah Al-Baqarah (2:256):
“There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.”
This verse emphasizes that faith should be a personal choice, free from any form of coercion. It underscores the Quran’s respect for individual autonomy in matters of belief.

But worldstar, what about the part that says slay them where you find them? Well, the internet elaborates on what the book actually says in that context. 

Question:
The Quran says, “Slay them wherever you find them…” which abrogates all the peaceful verses in the Quran and lets Muslims kill any non-Muslim they want.
Answer:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
This verse commands Muslims to defend their community against idolaters who violated their peace treaty obligations and were waging a war of aggression.
The verse is applicable only to hostile armies and not to non-Muslims in general. We should look at the entire chapter and interpret the verses comprehensively and consistently, rather than taking one verse out of context.
Allah said:
"When the sacred months have passed, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give charity, let them go on their way. Verily, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
Surah At-Tawbah 9:5
Some scholars referred to this as the “verse of the sword” because it commands the Muslims to defend the community against their enemies, but this is merely the designation of some scholars and it was not labeled as such by the Prophet, his companions, or the early Muslims. The verse allows for hostilities to cease if the idolaters repent from their transgression and become Muslims. Even if they refuse to accept Islam, the verse immediately following commands peace with any idolater who stops fighting and asks for a covenant of security.
Allah said:
"If any one of the idolaters seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know."
Surah At-Tawbah 9:6
Therefore, it cannot be said that the “verse of the sword” allows Muslims to kill any non-Muslim or to compel them to enter Islam. The following verses make clear that hostilities are only against those who violated their peace treaty. Muslims have been commanded to be faithful to the idolaters who upheld their treaty obligations.
Allah said:
"So as long as they are upright toward you, be upright toward them. Verily, Allah loves the righteous."
Surah At-Tawbah 9:7
The hostile idolaters were only fought because they habitually broke their security covenants. Even then they were given the chance to repent and cease hostilities.
Allah said:
"They do not observe toward a believer any pact of kinship or covenant of protection and it is they who are the transgressors. But if they repent, establish prayer, and give charity, then they are your brothers in religion. We detail the verses for a people who know."
Surah At-Tawbah 9:10-11
Another verse makes clear that the reason for fighting was to make them stop persecuting Muslims, not to force them into Islam.
Allah said:
"If they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for verily there are no oaths sacred to them, that they might cease."
Surah At-Tawbah 9:12
Some classical commentators said the “verse of the sword” has “abrogated” the peaceful verses which came before it, by which they did not mean the peaceful verses were cancelled, but rather they were restricted: some verses apply to one situation and other verses apply to another. The idea that the peaceful verses are cancelled is a lone extremist opinion with no scholarly support. M.A.S. Abdul Haleem, Professor of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London, writes:
The main clause of the sentence – “kill the polytheists” – is singled out by some non-Muslims as representing the Islamic attitude to war; even some Muslims takes this view and allege that this verse abrogated many other verses including,
“There is no compulsion in religion,”(2:256) and even according to one solitary extremist, “God is Forgiving and Merciful.” This far-fetched interpretation isolates and decontextualizes a small part of a sentence and of a passage which gives many reasons for the order to fight such polytheists: they continually broke their agreements and aided others against the Muslims, they started hostilities against the Muslims, barred others from becoming Muslims, expelled them from the Holy Mosque and even from their own homes. At least eight times the passage mentions the misdeeds of these people against the Muslims.
Moreover, consistent with the restriction of war elsewhere in the Quran, the immediate context of this “sword verse” exempts such polytheists who do not break their agreements and who keep peace with Muslims. It orders that those enemies seeking safe conduct should be protected and delivered to the place of safety they seek. The whole of this context to verse 9:5, with all its restrictions, is ignored by those who simply isolate one part of a sentence to build on it their theory of violence in Islam.
Source: The Qur’an – English translation and parallel Arabic text. p. xxiii
Likewise, the classical scholar Ibn Al-Qayyim writes:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) never forced the religion upon anyone, but rather he only fought those who waged war against him and fought him. As for those who made peace with him or conducted a truce, then he never fought them and he never compelled them to enter his religion
Source: Hidayat Al-Hayara 237
In conclusion, the “verse of the sword” commands Muslims to defend the community from attack by hostile forces. It does not allow Muslims to kill people just because they are non-Muslims or to force them to accept Islam.
Success comes from Allah, and Allah knows best.

That was refreshing reminder. I have only actually read the Quran front to back once in my life, when I was about 18 and spent a few weeks in "involuntary custody" as a result of knuckle-headedness and hooliganism. It is in my library, I forgot how nicely it is written. Perhaps I will read it again soon with the Avesta, well what has remained and is published anyways. I have been collecting as many non-Abrahamic texts to learn from as I can, in addition to already possessing the big three.

There are valuable lessons to be learned from them all. I believe that true learning happens when we can study all writings without being told we are heretics, blasphemous, criminals or devilish for seeking to learn anything outside of established Orthodoxies.

[worldstarcountry]

Also remember infidel is an English word, which has its  own definitions in Christianity. It seems something as simple as not being Baptized can make a person an infidel in the opinions of the church.

[worldstarcountry]

This young man, Grayson Brock, decided to read the entire book front to back on an eighteen hour stream he also uploaded as proof he did exactly that. 




I think someone on the internet is starting to threaten him based on the urgency he seems to be placing  on in person meet-ups . He is still young and trying to figure out his path it seems. But there are many like him.



He begins to obscure his face too. Behaviors that may indicate he is under some kind of duress it seems. He is trying to reach out to his younger peers with his style of video.

[worldstarcountry]

This was the video that the algorithm targeted me with the other day which is how I found out about him. It summarizes his reading experience and the lessons he took from it.



This is the kind of kid who I would like to see join a community such as ours, if he is not already here. He is seeking like minded souls to come together for intellectual and honest dialogue without the fear of those who would ignorantly shame such a mind for seeking understanding between different  peoples, beliefs, and cultures. 

These are the hallmarks of a mind liberated from darkness and willing to learn new things even if it may lead to conflicts with established understandings or beliefs. The kid if full of energy and excited about what he is learning. If he is not careful, he will make the wrong enemies and they will send him temptations to devastate his world. This may have already begun and explains why he is starting to cover his face and post less on the internet, as he himself explained above.

I recommend Christians who love the Holy Bible to at least also give the Nag Hammadi a read as well. It is not nearly as long, and includes teachings more in line with Orthodox Christianity in contrast to ever evolving dogmas of the Catholic Church. People should want all of the knowledge, not just one part of it.

I am going to reach out to this kid. He is a sign of the possibilities with the new generation, and the last thing we need is for someone to Charlie Kirk him.

[Randyvine]

There are valuable lessons to be learned from them all. I believe that true learning happens when we can study all writings without being told we are heretics, blasphemous, criminals or devilish for seeking to learn anything outside of established Orthodoxies.

Some great thoughts right here and altho I am convinced by what Christ
accomplished for us and do find it most compelling over everything I've
experienced in life so far. At the same time Holy rollers, TV evangelists,
religious zealots I see as doing nothing but harm to the truth in his regard.
I put them in the same file as car and vacuum cleaner salesmen and it turns
my stomach to hear the elderly praising any of them.

But that's the universe in with whom we share.