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Let's cut through the BS. Do GUNS kill people, OR...
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(10-21-2024, 11:21 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote:  An avid pro-2A person is going to zero in on the storage subject exclusively and likely have a vocal counter argument based solely on this alone

Just to maybe clarify on the point I was trying to make, which I maybe should've done but was worried about posting 'boring' long posts for the 'youth' who then don't read them.  Duh
Bad storage for me means things like leaving a firearm underneath a car seat, I read a horror story about a child shooting and killing themselves after picking it up when it slid out, and the guy who shoot his wife in the head after keeping a firearm under his pillow at night. That to me is poor education and understanding of storage and ownership.

I see 'storage' as common sense, If you're not home then maybe keeping the firearm locked in a draw or something, so it can't be easily stolen or 'played with'. I own a Katana that could easily cut straight through a person, I don't leave it laying around on a desk or counter-top or hung, somewhere a child could grab it.

I think certain groups don't want to except any criticism about any points because they worry it may show weakness but in my opinion it shows the opposite. To me, excepting some critique shows an understanding that some points might help improve the safety or misconceived 'image' portrayed.
I think safe storage should also be included in education. Even if thats just educating people about keeping firearms out of the reach of children.
Quote:Yes, it's a difficult discussion, and I hope you can see that there are some reasonable people out there.  People who believe in true "common sense" things like requiring certain levels of education for different firearms and the like.  But in the same breath, when that discussion also goes as far as telling me how to lock firearms away in such a manner that they are no longer accessible, and people are unwilling to separate those two elements, then I too will reject the discussion.

Hopefully that makes some sense.
I think you make some great points which I agree with, and I've enjoyed the thread and discussion.

I know this isn't about British gun control, but the Dunblaine massacre happened on my Birthday back in March 1996. That morning, Thomas Hamilton, a former scoutmaster, entered the gymnasium of the local primary school in Dunblane, a small town in central Scotland. Using two pistols and two revolvers, Hamilton shot dead sixteen five-year olds and a teacher before turning the gun on himself.Hamilton, a gun enthusiast, owned his weapons legally. Despite concerns over his mental state, his registration was never revoked.
So I also do believe that someones mental state should also come into play some how. As many over the years have pointed out "I'm not American" but I do feel the best way to stop any form of ban in America in the future is to step in and govern yourselves with better training, education and safety procedures, especially for someone suffering a metal health issue, I think something at a possible local/state level till their mental health improves. That way the government never has to be involved.



 
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RE: Let's cut through the BS. Do GUNS kill people, OR... - by Kurokage - 10-21-2024, 12:30 PM


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