Let's cut through the BS. Do GUNS kill people, OR...

[FlyingClayDisk]

I think you've already made your mind up within the first two sentences, and are calling the people who diasgree with you 'liberals in an echo chamber" so you're not really here to discuss it are you??

Actually, I am, and I have, if you take a look back at my reply to Byrd and others above.  What I was calling an "echo chamber" is the typical liberal argument, and I was trying to dispense with that and cut to the chase.  What I was hoping to avoid was all the usual teeth gnashing and hand wringing with all the usual uninformed rhetoric.  But not to worry.

 

I do agree with the member that said "Guns kill people like forks make you fat." though.

As do I, and that is the fundamental point of the OP.  It was an excellent analogy.  And, it's one of many credible reasons to defend such actions against the 2nd Amendment.  Deterrent is another. 
 

You have it ingrained into that it's your 'God given right' to own a firearm with no one allowed to tell you anything different, so stomp and moan at any mention of being forced to be educatated on proper ownership, care and storage by your government or have it regulated by your government or state. A 'standard' if you will for gun ownership, which should be part of any decent militia.

As an instructor, I have no issue with education on the subject.  Just basic instruction has not ever really been an issue here either.  NOR has it ever been seriously proposed, so I'm not sure where you're getting that.  However, when the subject of 'storage' comes up, then there are issues, particularly when someone wants to regulate this as locked storage preventing reasonable access for self defense.  But education I have no issue with at all.  In fact, I not only encourage it, I demand it for those around me.  Lives depend on proper education.  You will get no argument from me on this subject!

Regarding 'militias', this word is troublesome because of how it has been demonized by the left (not the right).  A "well regulated militia' is part of the Constitution as you likely know, but so many people misunderstand the intent of this statement.  Furthermore, the left in this country has demonized the word 'militia' intentionally to make an organized militia sound like a radical group of crazy insurgents.  That's not the intent, nor was it ever the intent.  But that's the problem with the left in America; they cannot be reasoned with.  It's all or nothing...even though they say differently.
 

I've personally seen this played out by an 'idiot' who's given my brother (We're British) all the 'mightier than thou' talks and the 'it's my right' bull. They're friends and have visted each other over the years. My brother and I are both martial artists with a few years under our belts using Katana amongst other things and understand the dangers of leaving around 'cutting' swords (theft, injury).
A few years back by brothers friend blew his knee out whilst cleaning his firearm, and lost his house, with his family moving to seperate family accomadations because of the costs.   Understanding the ownership of a deadly weapon should be on par or above the belief in the 2nd Amendment, and not below it or even forgot about.

I'm sorry to hear of your brother's friend.  Firearms are dangerous, deadly in fact, and should be treated with the care and competency they deserve.  Once again, proper education is critical.  You'll get no argument from me there.