10-20-2024, 03:59 PM
(10-19-2024, 06:24 PM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: So let's cut through all the bullshit. Do GUNS kill people, OR do the (twisted) PEOPLE who use guns kill people unlawfully?
I'm so sick of this debate. It's not even a "debate" really, it's more of a liberal echo chamber on the subject.
Look, I've been a firearms instructor for over 30 years, and I can prove to any interested person that a firearm canNOT kill another human being on its own. I can prove it! Throw it on the floor, bounce it off a wall, drop it out of a vehicle...it will NOT fire on its own. It will NOT FIRE! The only way to make a modern firearm fire is by pulling the trigger, and a person has to do this...intentionally, consciously. No exceptions.
Oh sure, you can come up with some cocked up thing about something catching the trigger, but please do point me to a single, even just ONE single, fatality or serious injury where this ever happened! It didn't. Repeat...IT...DID...NOT...HAPPEN! Yes, drunk people and people on drugs kill people with firearms, BUT so do these same people with cars, trucks, hammers, knives, bats and even with their hands. Okay, should we outlaw all those things too (like the UK seemingly tries to do)??? It doesn't work, folks. The person you have to stop, is the person with "intent". A firearm has no, ZERO, "intent". A firearm is just a tool, like a hammer, or a knife, or a car. Firearms don't think for themselves.
So, c'mon anti-2A people...let's get into it. You have nothing to defend your "public safety" position other than your notion than...when all guns are illegal, then you can rule over you "slaves" like you've wanted to since Lincoln made slavery illegal. It's about "control" for you.
So, let's get it on! Bring it! Explain your position.
Oh, and NO, Australia is not a good example, despite everyone looking to it for their last grasp. I love Australia, and one of the things I love about it is Australian independence. The gun ban in Australia had little bearing on gun ownership except in the big cities. In the rural areas, far away from cities, Australians just laughed. Out of sight, out of mind. Done. Break into a rural home in central Australia and find out...'Fuck around, and find out'...as the saying goes. Good! Don't ya' think?
This whole "gun" thing isn't about firearms, it's about controlling YOU. It's about controlling every single thing you do...where you go, what you have, why you have it, and what you're allowed to do.
How can some of you people not see this? It's about "Control".
I don't care if a person doesn't wish to own a firearm. There's a lot of reasons why this might be a credible reason. That's okay.
BUT...for those people who are qualified, competent and willing...there should be no reason, under the umbrella of the founding fathers of this once great nation, which should prevent law abiding citizens from owning as many firearms as they wish, including fully automatic weapons (only thing I take issue with Reagan for...fuck the Firearms Act of '86).
I rest.
P.S. Now, I know this is not a topic welcome here on DI. Hey, I get it. Okay, but I posted it...and I really don't give a flying...(connection lost)
Take care all!!
It's a no-brainer, my friend. Do cars kill people? Do planes kill people? No, of course not. They are inert devices which have no will to choose. Guns do not kill people. Chemicals do not kill people, because that implies intent. People kill people, and people kill themselves with bad choices, and putting themselves in situations that cause accidents. Weather kills people. Weather isn't to blame, because the people that weather kill, had the opportunity to live elsewhere where the weather would not manifest itself. That said, almost everywhere has a natural disaster just waiting.