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09-23-2025, 04:01 AM
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(09-23-2025, 03:52 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: How do you square that with Trump saying that he hated his opponents?
What do you mean?
I haven't heard him say that, but then again I don't really listen to his mouthing off much. And if he said it, then he's just telling the truth. He probably does hate his opponents. Biden never said out loud that he hated Trump but you know he did. So does AOC and Adam Schiff. Everyone hates everyone 'on the other side', even if they don't say it. You can tell Kimmel hates anyone on the right. Same with the 'woke' crowd ... full of hate. You can tell MAGA hate everyone on the left.
As I said .. people are addicted to hateful partisan bullshit. Instead of being upset that Kimmel lied to them ... the people were upset that they didn't get to listen to his hateful partisan bullshit lies .... and that's a very sad statement about people's mentality.
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09-23-2025, 04:12 AM
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(09-23-2025, 03:52 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: How do you square that with Trump saying that he hated his opponents?
They tried to undermine and remove him as a duly elected President, remove his free speech rights, bankrupt, jail and murder him.
I think he's entitled to hate them.
It's ironic that the radical left cheered when the Govt pressured social media to ban Trump form social media - a President no less - but claim the end of democracy if Jimmy Kimmel is removed from a late night comedy show.
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Disney says they're going to put him back on the air, but the affiliates say they're still preempting the show till they have talks with Disney.
I wonder how many advertisers have pulled their ads, if any. Most companies don't want to be involved with things like this because it gives their product a bad name. Kimmel's ratings have been going steadily down for years and the show is probably on it's last leg anyway.
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(09-23-2025, 04:41 AM)David64 Wrote: Disney says they're going to put him back on the air, but the affiliates say they're still preempting the show till they have talks with Disney.
I wonder how many advertisers have pulled their ads, if any. Most companies don't want to be involved with things like this because it gives their product a bad name. Kimmel's ratings have been going steadily down for years and the show is probably on it's last leg anyway.
Or advertise / sponsor a show that isn’t going to broadcast in major markets.
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09-23-2025, 05:08 AM
This post was last modified: 09-23-2025, 05:14 AM by Kurokage. 
I've seen a lot of posters saying Kimmel must be failing because his ratings have dropped, but what most of these 'old people' are forgetting to post, is that all late night live TV shows are falling in viewers, and that all traditional TV ratings have fallen of a cliff. Kimmel was actually number one with young adults (18-49) beating both Fallon and Colbert in his spot.
TV viewing is changing as broadcast TV is no longer the main way that most people watch TV these days, preferring to stream/download their shows.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonifitzger...ng-adults/
Quote:Jimmy Kimmel ratings over the years have dropped—which hardly makes him unique or says anything about his popularity. The comedian, whose late-night Jimmy Kimmel Live! show was suspended by ABC earlier this week following fallout surrounding his comments about the murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, experienced the same decline in viewership suffered by virtually everything on television.
And actually, the most recent round of numbers for Kimmel were positive. He moved slightly ahead of rival The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, which CBS recently cancelled, among adults ages 18-49 – the key demographic for advertisers. They base their ad sales on how many viewers shows pull in that group....
A ratings rise of any kind is notable in 2025. Changes in viewing patterns, with more people now watching streaming video than traditional television, have cratered ratings for virtually every show on television. Even the most popular franchises, like NCIS and Law & Order, have seen ratings drop precipitously from a decade ago—and even more from the 2000s, when Kimmel’s show debuted.
On YouTube, where Kimmel’s channel has more than 20 million subscribers, his three most recent videos have all garnered more than 3 million views, suggesting a wider audience than on TV—again, this doesn’t make him special in the current TV landscape with viewers migrating online....
ABC did not even try to pretend it was pulling Kimmel for any reason other than the financial impact and backlash from its affiliates, including owner Nextstar, which owns more than two dozen ABC stations and is looking for regulatory approval for a $6.2 billion purchase of Tegna. President Donald Trump suggested that the Federal Communications Commission could even revoke TV broadcasters’ licenses for “bad publicity,” though the legality of such a move is questionable...
The comedian vs. the state controversy is certainly nothing new historically. Mike Fontaine, a professor of classics at Cornell University, notes that there is a long history of comedians being silenced for speaking truth to power.
“Canceling comedians is a defining feature of authoritarianism,” he said. “When ‘offending the sovereign’ becomes synonymous with ‘treason,’ you know we’ve crossed a bright red line. This has always been true in the West.”
He cites examples dating back to ancient Greece, noting that even Roman leaders weren’t above retribution against those who made fun of them.
Hundreds of years later, Voltaire was similarly silenced. “In the Enlightenment, the best example of punishing wit is Voltaire. He was locked in the Bastille for his satirical writings. Abuses like that eventually led to support for the French Revolution,” said Fontaine. It underscores how such censorship can backfire.
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(09-23-2025, 05:08 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I've seen a lot of posters saying Kimmel must be failing
The late night genre as a whole is losing ratings and Kimmel isn’t even averaging over 150,000 viewers a night. It’s more like 120,000. Most of his viewers are over 30. While not creating new viewers under 30 while they age.
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09-23-2025, 06:23 AM
This post was last modified: 09-23-2025, 07:46 AM by Kurokage. 
(09-23-2025, 06:05 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: The late night genre as a whole is losing ratings and Kimmel isn’t even averaging over 150,000 viewers a night. It’s more like 120,000. Most of his viewers are over 30. While not creating new viewers under 30 while they age.
The link I posted gives his numbers compared to his competitors, and also about the changing attitudes to broadcast TV.
Broadcast TV as a whole is falling in viewers though, and Kimmel (whether you like him or not) is the top rated live late night host amongst his competitors, some here seem to want to say otherwise without checking viewers of all late night live TV. This why his show has been bought back, instead of giving into authoritarianism.
Young viewers are moving over to TV on demand (streaming) to replace the old broadcast stuff.
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(09-23-2025, 06:05 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: The late night genre as a whole is losing ratings and Kimmel isn’t even averaging over 150,000 viewers a night. It’s more like 120,000. Most of his viewers are over 30. While not creating new viewers under 30 while they age.
This is why he should just be ignored.
The far left (which includes all the leading Democrat politicians these days) exists on the basis that their voices are amplified - primarily by the right.
When it comes down to it , their own reach via outlets like CNN and MSNBC have limited audiences.
We should ignore their echo chamber.
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09-23-2025, 06:58 AM
This post was last modified: 09-23-2025, 07:21 AM by quintessentone. 
(09-23-2025, 03:52 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: How do you square that with Trump saying that he hated his opponents?
The far right and the far left here on DI can't square anything that Trump or other top politicians say because they seem to be more interested in maintaining the divide and conquer stance which serves only the politicians, so the people's attention is not on them and they grab at more and more power and taxpayer dollars and continually play the distraction game. Some Americans are protecting some politicians and very rich men and women that are disgusting human beings and that seems to be the culture they want to maintain - on both sides.
I don't see how doing that benefits them unless they somehow benefit from government squashing the working class down into the mud, taking away freedom of speech and freedom of the press, and getting behind those that protect child sex abusers. And from the looks of it both parties did some or all of these things.
Thank goodness many members here can look at both sides and find the truth, even some top Republican politicians and one member of the FCC stepped outside that box when Trump went too far, as is the case with Kimmel.
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(09-23-2025, 06:25 AM)UKTRUTH Wrote: This is why he should just be ignored.
The far left (which includes all the leading Democrat politicians these days) exists on the basis that their voices are amplified - primarily by the right.
When it comes down to it , their own reach via outlets like CNN and MSNBC have limited audiences.
We should ignore their echo chamber.
They get most of their viewership from clips posted to YouTube and other social media, which are promoted and inserted in the feeds of everyone who might be "interested" in them, subscribers or not. This is, of course, not political advocacy and no FEC rules apply. Because they're "funny"!
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