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Jeep's New Hurricane 4 Engine Is Insane!
#1
One of the most technically advanced four-cylinder engines ever just launched. The Hurricane 4 engine has a passive pre-chamber with turbulent jet ignition, just like what is done in Formula 1, so it can make boatloads of power without using much fuel. It uses two spark plugs per cylinder, it’s running miller-cycle, uses plasma spray cylinder liners, dual fuel injection, electric cam phasing, and a variable geometry turbo, with up to 35 PSI of boost pressure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSu03pRilFo
#2
I dont trust ANYTHING JEEP MAKES. Even if it is on the very cutting edge. 

My girlfriend use to have a very fun (while it worked)  Wrangler... But it was the biggest disappointment of shitty American auto engineering ever conceived. Jeeps in general are. 

The slogan of Jeep Engineering:

"Let's make really fun off road vehicles, but lets make it so EVERYTHING goes after 60,000 miles!" 

This seems like the auto equivalent of "Jumping the Shark," as they circle the ratings drain..

Jeep's biggest tell is 3 of 10 vehicles with highest backlog inventory are Jeeps.  They cant give them away for a reason.

Fuck Jeep.
Long live AWD Suburus with a WRX engine!
#3
I've owned two Wranglers and have had very few problems (knock wood) with them.  They took a bad turn when Stellantis acquired them and started cutting corners.  FWIW, their CEO resigned a a couple of years ago and new leadership has vowed to get back on track.  Hopefully he means it.

I have family members who have put 100K plus on theirs, but they are slightly older models.  I'm guessing your friend's model year fell into the 2021-2024 range?  That's when they were at their worst.
#4
Oh, it seems you haven't heard. 

There is a recall in the works for all turbo boosted engines. All makes, all models. The engineering just isn't there and the American government is about to make the automakers fix them. All of them. 

I don't know if they are going to put older design engines in or some other fix. The turbo boosted engines just are not holding up. 

The automotive dealers have gone from a few engines a year, a few years ago, to replacing a few each week. It is about to the point where some engines are getting scarce for new vehicles because they are being replaced at such a high rate. 

This new jeep engine is just another over engineered technical nightmare that won't last. Who would want racing engine technology in a regular vehicle? They rebuild those engines every race or two. They are not designed for the long run. 

Cutting edge technology is just another word for untested technology.

And yes, Stellantis destroyed the jeep reputation.
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#5
(11 hours ago)Roma Wrote: I've owned two Wranglers and have had very few problems (knock wood) with them.  They took a bad turn when Stellantis acquired them and started cutting corners.  FWIW, their CEO resigned a a couple of years ago and new leadership has vowed to get back on track.  Hopefully he means it.

I have family members who have put 100K plus on theirs, but they are slightly older models.  I'm guessing your friend's model year fell into the 2021-2024 range?  That's when they were at their worst.

It was a 2008 Wrangler.

It burned oil at an ungodly rate. The electrical system was total shit. It would unnervingly wobble over 60 MPH. Then something internal combustion related happened and the engine experienced a catastrophic failure at 63,000 miles.

Not a question of love, but more a compounding regret she now owned the absolute worst off-road vehicle ever made.

In the end, Its only remaining value was its parts, which elevated it above total scrap. Then we went and got her something Japanese (so it lasts) that also goes offroad.
#6
My first was a '98 or thereabouts.  It did have the death wobble but oddly enough not until I had it for about 5 years.  My current one is a 2020 4-door Wrangler.  I have a few complaints, the worst of which is the service department constantly trying to upsell you on something.

 Just curious, what did your friend buy?  I've been looking at different vehicles but I'm not sure what I want exactly.
#7
A 2014 Subaru Outback with AWD and a very fast 6 cylinder engine that could pass people without feeling like you were going to die trying. 

It was going from a vehicle of total annoying maintenance to only needing scheduled maintenance.
#8
(7 hours ago)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Oh, it seems you haven't heard. 

There is a recall in the works for all turbo boosted engines. All makes, all models. The engineering just isn't there and the American government is about to make the automakers fix them. All of them. 

I don't know if they are going to put older design engines in or some other fix. The turbo boosted engines just are not holding up. 

The automotive dealers have gone from a few engines a year, a few years ago, to replacing a few each week. It is about to the point where some engines are getting scarce for new vehicles because they are being replaced at such a high rate. 

This new jeep engine is just another over engineered technical nightmare that won't last. Who would want racing engine technology in a regular vehicle? They rebuild those engines every race or two. They are not designed for the long run. 

Cutting edge technology is just another word for untested technology.

And yes, Stellantis destroyed the jeep reputation.

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