Is depression actually an overactive brain?

[Maxmars]

Love it 

I promise to keep trying. 

I’ve been at this for nearly 20 years. 

20 years of insults and attacks — but I’m still here.

I'd like to say that I have as well... but I was never present for a time when certain people were'nt still reveling in the 'anonymity' factor to loosen the filter of their common sense.

At some point I imagine the very insulting, directly focused personal attacking types realize that some people out here won't 'be' targets... the most obsessive of them always go too far.

Thanks for persisting...

[quintessentone]

Love it 

I promise to keep trying. 

I’ve been at this for nearly 20 years. 

20 years of insults and attacks — but I’m still here.

You know what they say about getting insults and attacks during a discussion or debate.

"Insults are widely seen as a sign of losing the argument, not winning it.  As noted in multiple sources, when someone resorts to name-calling, sarcasm, or slander, it often reflects a lack of intellectual integrity or emotional maturity. The quote "When the debate is lost, insults become the loser’s tool"—though falsely attributed to Socrates—captures this sentiment accurately. It suggests that insults are not a strength but a surrender, revealing that the person has no valid counterpoints left."

https://communicationintelligence.substa...te-is-lost

It's surrender with tantrums.

[ANNEE]

You know what they say about getting insults and attacks during a discussion or debate.

"Insults are widely seen as a sign of losing the argument, not winning it.  As noted in multiple sources, when someone resorts to name-calling, sarcasm, or slander, it often reflects a lack of intellectual integrity or emotional maturity. The quote "When the debate is lost, insults become the loser’s tool"—though falsely attributed to Socrates—captures this sentiment accurately. It suggests that insults are not a strength but a surrender, revealing that the person has no valid counterpoints left."

https://communicationintelligence.substa...te-is-lost

It's surrender with tantrums.

Very good and thank you. 

I do believe I’ve mentioned that a time or two to specific individuals. 

I have always been an independent thinker. Drove my mom nuts. 

It can be a lonely road. You have to develop your own emotional and mental strength.

TO ADD:  Love this part from your link. If you notice I often ask questions. 

“Socrates, a relentless questioner, forced his opponents to confront their own ignorance. His method, the elenchus, was designed to strip away pretenses to uncover the truth.”

[quintessentone]

Very good and thank you. 

I do believe I’ve mentioned that a time or two to specific individuals. 

I have always been an independent thinker. Drove my mom nuts. 

It can be a lonely road. You have to develop your own emotional and mental strength.

TO ADD:  Love this part from your link. If you notice I often ask questions. 

“Socrates, a relentless questioner, forced his opponents to confront their own ignorance. His method, the elenchus, was designed to strip away pretenses to uncover the truth.”

My questioning everything as a young person and getting no answers from the adults around me drove me to self-educate and self-reflect. Lonely road no more because my daughter and sometimes my son get me, totally.

The trick is questioning oneself on one's beliefs, I think.




My mother still asks me "Why do you want to do that?, as an example - why I would have any desire to travel the world? - where no explanation of mine is ever satisfactory.

Why indeed?

[Maxmars]

Harsh and insulting words surface mostly in the places where the speaker of insults has perceived, or assumes weakness.  Stabbing at the messenger's ego 'might' weaken their delivery... but anyone interested in the actual debate will know it's irrelevant.

Attack the messenger if the message won't break.

It's a 'personal win' affectation... if the truth you are argue is sound... at least I can say your shoes are ugly.

Those who observe for a "winner" will often be 'entertained' but then, the argument is moot when the competition is about the 'messenger.'  Media production "directors" rely on 'crafted appearances' as if they were magic.  Most frequently, none of it is about the message....

Audience skipping the self-reflection part of deliberation will rely on the 'entertainment' to decide who is "better."

But in the end... assuming speakers have a point to make... insults are like firing into the sky wildly... and rarely have a place in a debate.... unless the speakers are the topic... then you have what we call....

"American media politics."

A reality TV show for the world to pretend they "know" the actors, yet the script is always written by the same author, produced by the same PR experts, crafted with thespian tools and 'style,' and just as pointless as the 'imagery pretense' they are founded upon.  Politicians are actors... the 'struggles' they face are theatrical stage settings... the drama and glory of their 'positions in society" are manufactured to elevate "the story for the audience."

And many of us are left insulting "each other" as we speak because "team us" is reportedly against "team you."

Meanwhile the chief actors are all at 'party town'... feasting on rare and unattainable treats and pleasures... at parties only the "elite" play in... go figure...  trying to figure out how to hang onto the teat... forever.

[ANNEE]

I make statements -- my thoughts/position -- mostly.  Or ask questions.

Don't engage in childish "ping pong".

Frustrates the Hell out of the instigators when you won't play their game.

[ANNEE]

My questioning everything as a young person and getting no answers from the adults around me drove me to self-educate and self-reflect. Lonely road no more because my daughter and sometimes my son get me, totally.

The trick is questioning oneself on one's beliefs, I think.

My mother still asks me "Why do you want to do that?, as an example - why I would have any desire to travel the world? - where no explanation of mine is ever satisfactory.

Why indeed?

Fortunately - my mom was pretty enlightened.  I was raised metaphysically in the 1950's.  

She never forced any ideas on me -- she believed every soul must find and travel their own path.

I caught her ones saying something racist -- and called her on it.  She told me it's how she was raised -- but it didn't belong in my generation.  

I've mentioned more than once she was a polio victim.  We belonged to a disabled club (all types of disabilities).  I learned early (age 5/6 -- people are not their physical wrappings -- look straight into their heart.

Also -- my own personal life would have been different except for an unusual/unfound birth defect.  Something was wrong but no one could figure out what.  Doctor after doctor after doctor -- test after test after test.  Hard to treat symptoms that aren't extreme enough to point to anything specific.  I was "seasick" for about 6 years -- pressure on my equilibrium from fluid being held in my body.  At age 50 it was discovered that my right jawbone ended before the connecting joint.  So - an imbalance chain reaction of muscles etc over many years.

I managed to pass a few college classes -- but I was too physically messed up to continue.

All that to tell you -- I don't travel   

[quintessentone]

Fortunately - my mom was pretty enlightened.  I was raised metaphysically in the 1950's.  

She never forced any ideas on me -- she believed every soul must find and travel their own path.

I caught her ones saying something racist -- and called her on it.  She told me it's how she was raised -- but it didn't belong in my generation.  

I've mentioned more than once she was a polio victim.  We belonged to a disabled club (all types of disabilities).  I learned early (age 5/6 -- people are not their physical wrappings -- look straight into their heart.

Also -- my own personal life would have been different except for an unusual/unfound birth defect.  Something was wrong but no one could figure out what.  Doctor after doctor after doctor -- test after test after test.  Hard to treat symptoms that aren't extreme enough to point to anything specific.  I was "seasick" for about 6 years -- pressure on my equilibrium from fluid being held in my body.  At age 50 it was discovered that my right jawbone ended before the connecting joint.  So - an imbalance chain reaction of muscles etc over many years.

I managed to pass a few college classes -- but I was too physically messed up to continue.

All that to tell you -- I don't travel   

Thank you for sharing your life's journey. I know you much better now.

[Knows]

Alcohol can cause depression by lowering the brains ability to produce dopamine. I cured my depression and stopped drinking by using a Biotuner device a very long time ago.

[Britseye]

Reckon before anyone diagnoses anyone they should read through these quotes (twice).


QUOTES

Thanks for drawing my attention to this a second time, Karl. I read them all the first time but you're right, they should be read over and over again. I'm trying to deal with a 'problem person' and labelling them as ADHD has seemed to be a convenient way to try to get to the bottom of the disorders they present. I'm getting a lot of 2 minute tiktok clips in my youtube feed pertaining to the subject. However, I cannot address this other persons, let's call them shortcomings instead of disorders, without giving consideration to whether I'm displaying the symptoms myself. 

​​​​​​What's interesting to me is if I look back on my brief (5 year) life as a British Civil Servant, a desk jockey, a pen pusher, if you will, there was little to no evidence of scattered attention and incompleted tasks there. However, entering fast speed industries like restaurant and farming for the following 20 years where I was having to think extremely quickly, I recognise how my brain became increasingly wired to have fast firing neurons and, in my own words, being able to multitask like a bastard!   It's like I 'caught' ADHD or inflicted it upon myself, rather than having being genetically predisposed to it or whatever. 

Luckily, as a frequent meditator, I've been able to catch my brain in its over thinking, over stimulated state and like a number of people I've spoken to on the subject I've been able to convert my own self-diagnosed, so-called ADHD in double inverted commas, as a superpower rather than a hindrance. 

Of course, I realised a long time ago that anything to do with psychiatry is an absolute load of old cobblers anyway, as your list of quotes quite rightly emphasises.