11-19-2024, 10:33 AM
This post was last modified 11-19-2024, 10:37 AM by UltraBudgie. 
(11-18-2024, 11:39 PM)Spectral Entity Wrote: There is several ways to make a classified document public: automatic declassification after 25 years or longer if extended, review process, or the original classification authority deems there is no longer a need for the original classification.
That isn’t what happened here, though.
If true, the original person who brought this info to light had to have used proper whistleblower channels, as leaking classified material isn’t protected by the Whistleblower Act unless following procedures put in place to properly disclose classified information. Especially SAP or SCI material.
So we're left with what may or may not be an accurate document, either written by someone within the whistleblower channels or read in to a SAP, that has likely been subsequently edited and/or systematically redacted, then leaked from the channel itself through what seems to be at least two layers of external influencers. And which may have made a quick stop along the way at the State department's foreign narrative generation/approval apparatus. Okay. That's all well and good, one is left with a profound sense of "it is what it is".
As soon as we have to use phrases like "if true, ..." in discussing this (and you are fair to do so), we're in hypothetical-land, which is where discussion has been now for decades. That's not progress. In fact, I'm wondering what progress might be. Imagine if the Pentagon came forth and said "yes extraterrestrial things exist and we've met them and have their stuff". Would it be believed? The demand for more "proof" would simply shift. People would (rightly) suspect a cover up of something else, a disinformation campaign, dissonance within compartmentalization, or something else. Disclosure for propaganda purposes. We still wouldn't know what to believe.
Or imaging they released some materiel and claimed it was non-terrestrial. The goalposts would shift again. Didn't NASA try something like that with evidence of life on Mars, back in the 90s? People would find prosaic believable explanation, suspect it was some trick or fabrication for the global geopolitical technology game. The origin would still be unclear and unprovable. Even if working RVs were shown, that wouldn't prove anything other than the military complex has been developing and acquiring esoteric technology for lifetimes now.
So what changes the conversation? I'll repeat my earlier thought:
Quote:Trust cannot be rebuilt on the same level of engagement upon which it was destroyed. So for there to be a context in which this issue actually advances, doesn't it have to be broadly international?
Internation in this sense meaning either terrestrial nations with enough disparate interests to make theories of coordinated deception implausible, or interplanetary*, with actual ayys making sarcastic jokes on the Jimmy Kimmel show or something equally American.
* or interdimensional, or intertemporal, or whatever
I'm not saying this to nay say and dismiss. I want someone in Congress to echo this sentiment and demand a plan and direction we can move towards, and I want more coordination with others outside the apparatus.