I hate to say I told you so

[quintessentone]

"With Capitalism, man exploits man, with Socialism, it's reversed."
Mark Twain

Well with democratic socialism that is not the case - therein lies the difference, you should learn about it.

[DBCowboy]

Well with democratic socialism that is not the case - therein lies the difference, you should learn about it.

Christ, it's Marxism, just be honest for once!

It's Communism.

It's owning/controlling the means of production.

It's high taxes for everyone, no wealthy people, no innovation.

It's been done.

It's failed repeatedly.

Come up with a system that provides wealth, innovation, rewards success, and I'm all in.

Just because Communists are lazy or don't want success is no reason for everyone sinking to their level of inadequacy.

[quintessentone]

Christ, it's Marxism, just be honest for once!

It's Communism.

It's owning/controlling the means of production.

It's high taxes for everyone, no wealthy people, no innovation.

It's been done.

It's failed repeatedly.

Come up with a system that provides wealth, innovation, rewards success, and I'm all in.

Just because Communists are lazy or don't want success is no reason for everyone sinking to their level of inadequacy.

"Aneurin Bevan: "There is only one hope for mankind — and that is democratic Socialism." 

Martin Luther King, Jr.: "Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children." 

Bernie Sanders: "We have to talk about democratic socialism as an alternative to unfettered capitalism, where the rich get richer and almost everybody else is getting poorer. I think that’s a message that young people are receptive to, and I think it’s a message that working people are receptive to.""

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You are confused and stuck.

[DBCowboy]

"Aneurin Bevan: "There is only one hope for mankind — and that is democratic Socialism." 

Martin Luther King, Jr.: "Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children." 

Bernie Sanders: "We have to talk about democratic socialism as an alternative to unfettered capitalism, where the rich get richer and almost everybody else is getting poorer. I think that’s a message that young people are receptive to, and I think it’s a message that working people are receptive to.""

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You are confused and stuck.

No.  I've been alive for 7 decades and I do know what's going on.

Quotes are cute, but they don't sell the high taxes, the lowered standards of living, or the "equity" of the lowest common denominator.

[quintessentone]

No.  I've been alive for 7 decades and I do know what's going on.

Quotes are cute, but they don't sell the high taxes, the lowered standards of living, or the "equity" of the lowest common denominator.

So have I and I'm telling you that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to democratic socialism.

[DBCowboy]

So have I and I'm telling you that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to democratic socialism.

Then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.  Because I won't go socialist even at gun point.

[quintessentone]

Then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.  Because I won't go socialist even at gun point.

It's not socialist, it's democratic socialism and everyone gets to keep their guns. Happy now?

[DBCowboy]

It's not socialist, it's democratic socialism and everyone gets to keep their guns. Happy now?

No and I will refuse to participate.

I will resist.

Until the Cheka's come for me.

[Solvedit]

Well with democratic socialism that is not the case - therein lies the difference, you should learn about it.

Democratic Socialism.  Two wolves and a sheep voting over what's for dinner.

[quintessentone]

Democratic Socialism.  Two wolves and a sheep voting over what's for dinner.

The two wolves are hungry socialist democrats and the sheep represents the rich.

"Eat the rich"

""When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich"."  Rousseau