Here's what you do

[ANNEE]

Since then I grew up to be very much a girly girl - people I know now are so shocked when I tell them this story, as at my ripe old age of 39 I'm probably still more 'girly girl' than most!

Long story short... Thank goodness my parents ignored my moaning and didn't send me off to transition!!!! ?

I really do not understand why people try to use this argument.

I grew up in an all boy neighborhood between 2 brothers.  Did not have any girl friends until about age 12.

Being a tomboy has nothing to do with being transgender.

When those hormones hit -- and some guy says your cute -- out come the pink dresses.

UNLESS -- those hormones and brain cells tell you something different.

[argentus]

I really do not understand why people try to use this argument.

I grew up in an all boy neighborhood between 2 brothers.  Did not have any girl friends until about age 12.

Being a tomboy has nothing to do with being transgender.

When those hormones hit -- and some guy says your cute -- out come the pink dresses.

UNLESS -- those hormones and brain cells tell you something different.

It takes all kinds, doesn't it?    To make a world.   Imagine if all flowers were the same color.

[Unknownparadox]

What do you mean by external forces?  And what exactly am I stopping?

 Here was the question, I posted to you.

Suppose you could stop all these peoples gender problems before it occurred. Would you do it?

I think the question is pretty self explanatory. If you stop a problem before it occurs, it's called proactive. If you could stop a bank robbery before it occurred. Would you do it? 

If you could stop the gender problems before they occurred. Like remove the substance that is causing it. Most likely plastic. Would you do it?  

Not a democrat 1 not a single one, of all I have talked to would lift a finger to change the situation, even if it is plastic, which is highly likely. Combine with a bunch of adults who want to shove sex in 3-4-5 year olds faces.

You go read up on what the 16,000 chemicals, mostly unregulated, in plastic are doing to unborn children. And while reading up on it. Read up on the hormone mimicking chemicals they are leeching into the food and water. And after you get done reading up on that. Go read up on spoons worth of micro plastic in the human brain. Not a spoon full, but a entire plastic spoon 7 grams. Almost a quarter ounce.

And when you get done reading up on that. I got some more reading for you.

I don't think its funny at all.

Go read up on criminals and brain scans.

Go read up on when suicide bomber children and when they were most common. Then go read up on whether children can be influenced by adults.

And what was funny was you answer. "They are born that way."

[ANNEE]

It takes all kinds, doesn't it?    To make a world.   Imagine if all flowers were the same color.

I'm for that.

I also had a polio disabled mother.  We belonged to a club for the disabled.

I grew up with all kinds.  

Some were sweet like flowers and some were not 

[ANNEE]

 Here was the question, I posted to you.

I think the question is pretty self explanatory. If you stop a problem before it occurs, it's called proactive. 

If you consider transgender a problem and want to be proactive to fix that problem.

I suggest you start inutero.

[AnAlternateOpinion]

The numbers speak for themselves.
Trans people face sky high rates of depression, anxiety, and suicide even after medical transition.

Is this just something you heard or read somewhere therefore it is true? Unsubstantiated claims and opinions should come with at least of modicum of support to back them up.

The general problem with most trans related research and statistics is the lack of any sort of meaningful criteria or distinctions between disparate groups that fall under the overly broad and non-specific transgender umbrella. When discussing outcomes for example, the results may vary widely between the 50 y/o married father of 3 that transitions and the 18 y/o that has successfully been living in their target gender for several years.

Additionally, “medical transition” for some does not have the same meaning for others as that could mean just taking hormones off and on to having multiple “gender affirming” surgeries (breast augmentation, facial feminization, Adams apple, etc.) to full on vaginoplasty or phalloplasty.

Nor do many studies take socioeconomic, cultural, political and environmental factors as well as the health impact of stigma, discrimination, prejudice and bias experienced by transgender people into their conclusions, however:

Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcome

Conclusions
In this article, we present the largest study to our knowledge to date on associations between gender-affirming surgeries and mental health outcomes. Our results demonstrate that undergoing gender-affirming surgery is associated with improved past-month severe psychological distress, past-year smoking, and past-year suicidal ideation. Our findings offer empirical evidence to support provision of gender-affirming surgical care for TGD people who seek it

Long-term Outcomes After Gender-Affirming Surgery: 40-Year Follow-up Study

Conclusion: Gender-affirming surgery is a durable treatment that improves overall patient well-being. High patient satisfaction, improved dysphoria, and reduced mental health comorbidities persist decades after GAS without any reported patient regret.

Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care

A systematic review of patient regret after surgery- A common phenomenon in many specialties but rare within gender-affirmation surgery

Postoperative Regret Among Transgender and Gender-Diverse Recipients of Gender-Affirming Surgery

Hormone therapy linked to lower suicide risk for trans youths, study finds

Puberty blockers linked to lower suicide risk for transgender people

Overall, trans people report improved satisfaction and quality of life after transition but may still experience slightly higher than average rates of depression/anxiety, etc. With the way they are commonly treated by society and even often family, do you blame them and add on top of that an entire cottage anti-trans industry bent on promoting lies and pseudoscience and then there's an administration trying to erase their existence entirely.

Do I think that all transfolk are shiny happy people farting rainbows of joy without a care in the world or problems? No and I think some go down this path mistakenly and really screw up their lives ending up far worse than they were before but I am not my brother’s keeper and it is not my place to tell others what they can or cannot do.

[tellmethesecrets]

I really do not understand why people try to use this argument.

I grew up in an all boy neighborhood between 2 brothers.  Did not have any girl friends until about age 12.

Being a tomboy has nothing to do with being transgender.

When those hormones hit -- and some guy says your cute -- out come the pink dresses.

UNLESS -- those hormones and brain cells tell you something different.

My point was that if I was desiring to be a boy at that age now the DRs would be all over me and starting the transition process before my hormones had chance to hit.

[AnAlternateOpinion]

Next I would like to comment on some of the anecdotal stories provided by several members. Even though I may disagree with other’s opinions, having a dialog is still important.

"I knew this gay person…I knew a bi girl…she was a tomboy but is married with 9 kids…I wished I was a boy when I was young…"

Firstly, with no disrespect, some of these stories sound very much like the “I have a black friend so I can’t be a racist” trope. While there may be some intersectionality or shared experiences between the lives of gay, lesbian and bisexual folks with those of the trans persuasion, to assume there is some 1:1 correlation or equivalence would be an inaccurate perception.

With that being said, the intent of these I knew a or I was a… stories has not escaped me but the fact is, one thing is not like the other except perhaps in peripheral ways and while it great to show some degree of open-mindedness and lack of prejudice or bias, for some reason that same courtesy of openness isn’t extended to making any attempts to understand the lives and needs trans people and especially trans youth.

I get it. The fear that kids may grow out of it or it’s just a phase, they’re not emotionally mature enough to make life changing decisions and they may not feel the same way when they are older and have regrets is really of the highest concern and I certainly don’t have a problem with that or disagree but these worries should not prevent or exclude all properly diagnosed children from receiving the care to best address their individual situations.

It seems some people want to deny that kids can even have life crippling gender dysphoria while clinical observations and research indicate that indeed this phenomenon exists and is very real. Even the DSM-V lists an A and B diagnostic criteria for those under 12 as having early onset gender dysphoria (GD) and older adolescents considered to have late onset GD with different guidelines for each. Adults have their own separate criteria.

I will admit it is all pretty complicated and more research is needed but a March 2025 study tends to indicate one of the two youth groups may have more secondary problems or comorbidities and in my opinion, this study also indicates the need for different therapeutic protocols for each group.

That study can be found here, it is not behind a paywall: Onset Age and Internalizing Problems in Adolescents with Gender Dysphoria: Is There an Association?

As to the I knew a or I was a tomboy story, one comment stuck out at me and that was “I wished I was a boy”. Innocent enough but that is one significant phrase in assessing GD in children: there is a key difference between I wish I was and I am.

Let me add a few things just to clarify a few things so some don’t think I’m some radical trans activist or gender ideologue waving a tri-color flag promoting we transition kids.

I do not think it is right or wise to suggest to young children that they can “change sex” or transition. This idea and desire has to 100% come from the kids themselves first and keep ya damn older kids off Tic Tok and social media or it will rot their minds with all this 256 gender and non-binary stuff. (Note: I am a very senior citizen so stay off my lawn)

Although there are always outliers, I also think the idea that parents are pushing this onto their kids is mostly a myth. Most parents are horrified at having a trans kid and struggle to come to terms with it. Those that don't usually lose their children.

Although I have advocated for trans youth for over a decade through my attempts to provide information and education on this topic so that people may have more informed opinions, I recognize my own degree of bias in these matters in spite of striving for objectivity. I understand my efforts are mostly futile and people with strong opinions aren’t likely to change but yet I persist because I think it is important to present both sides of the issue. You know, like Alternate Opinions

I find the dogma and approved narrative of modern trans activism mostly repugnant and counter-productive. Transgender people do not like me at all and I have been banned from every one of their online communities I have tried to investigate. I have been called an anti-trans hater and a TERF and that was when they were being polite.

I also try my best to be courteous and respectful but know I sometimes come across as less than so as I am passionate about this subject. For that I apologize and will continue to try and improve.

[tellmethesecrets]

Next I would like to comment on some of the anecdotal stories provided by several members. Even though I may disagree with other’s opinions, having a dialog is still important.

"I knew this gay person…I knew a bi girl…she was a tomboy but is married with 9 kids…I wished I was a boy when I was young…"

Firstly, with no disrespect, some of these stories sound very much like the “I have a black friend so I can’t be a racist” trope. While there may be some intersectionality or shared experiences between the lives of gay, lesbian and bisexual folks with those of the trans persuasion, to assume there is some 1:1 correlation or equivalence would be an inaccurate perception.

With that being said, the intent of these I knew a or I was a… stories has not escaped me but the fact is, one thing is not like the other except perhaps in peripheral ways and while it great to show some degree of open-mindedness and lack of prejudice or bias, for some reason that same courtesy of openness isn’t extended to making any attempts to understand the lives and needs trans people and especially trans youth.

I get it. The fear that kids may grow out of it or it’s just a phase, they’re not emotionally mature enough to make life changing decisions and they may not feel the same way when they are older and have regrets is really of the highest concern and I certainly don’t have a problem with that or disagree but these worries should not prevent or exclude all properly diagnosed children from receiving the care to best address their individual situations.

It seems some people want to deny that kids can even have life crippling gender dysphoria while clinical observations and research indicate that indeed this phenomenon exists and is very real. Even the DSM-V lists an A and B diagnostic criteria for those under 12 as having early onset gender dysphoria (GD) and older adolescents considered to have late onset GD with different guidelines for each. Adults have their own separate criteria.

I will admit it is all pretty complicated and more research is needed but a March 2025 study tends to indicate one of the two youth groups may have more secondary problems or comorbidities and in my opinion, this study also indicates the need for different therapeutic protocols for each group.

That study can be found here, it is not behind a paywall: Onset Age and Internalizing Problems in Adolescents with Gender Dysphoria: Is There an Association?

As to the I knew a or I was a tomboy story, one comment stuck out at me and that was “I wished I was a boy”. Innocent enough but that is one significant phrase in assessing GD in children: there is a key difference between I wish I was and I am.

Let me add a few things just to clarify a few things so some don’t think I’m some radical trans activist or gender ideologue waving a tri-color flag promoting we transition kids.

I do not think it is right or wise to suggest to young children that they can “change sex” or transition. This idea and desire has to 100% come from the kids themselves first and keep ya damn older kids off Tic Tok and social media or it will rot their minds with all this 256 gender and non-binary stuff. (Note: I am a very senior citizen so stay off my lawn)

Although there are always outliers, I also think the idea that parents are pushing this onto their kids is mostly a myth. Most parents are horrified at having a trans kid and struggle to come to terms with it. Those that don't usually lose their children.

Although I have advocated for trans youth for over a decade through my attempts to provide information and education on this topic so that people may have more informed opinions, I recognize my own degree of bias in these matters in spite of striving for objectivity. I understand my efforts are mostly futile and people with strong opinions aren’t likely to change but yet I persist because I think it is important to present both sides of the issue. You know, like Alternate Opinions

I find the dogma and approved narrative of modern trans activism mostly repugnant and counter-productive. Transgender people do not like me at all and I have been banned from every one of their online communities I have tried to investigate. I have been called an anti-trans hater and a TERF and that was when they were being polite.

I also try my best to be courteous and respectful but know I sometimes come across as less than so as I am passionate about this subject. For that I apologize and will continue to try and improve.

You say there's a difference between "I wish" and "i am"...  As far as I'm aware that difference is biology. The chromosomes determine the "I am" and the "i wish" determines everything else right?

Same way as if I bleached my hair because I wish i was a blonde, strongly desired to be a blonde, felt so strongly that I should've been born blonde etc... No amount of bleach would change the fact that I'm still a natural brunette.  Side Note: bleaching hair isnt recommended for under 16s, but gender changing.....?!

[Unknownparadox]

If you consider transgender a problem and want to be proactive to fix that problem.

I suggest you start inutero.

Again you avoided the question. Imagine that.

Apparently you didn't go read up on plastic. Not quite as good as taking orders as giving them? Or you just don't care about the human race?

Or you don't care what's causing transgender. You like it so therefore you want to keep it. It isn't about helping anyone. Because when your brain in born in the wrong body, that appears to be a very big problem.