Ghislaine Maxwell says Epstein client list does not exist

[WallFlowerActive]

Russian collusion is a different topic

The general population and no one in politics had any interest in the Epstein stuff until Bondi, Patel, Bongino and Trump decided to shine a big spotlight on it with their weird, paranoid behavior. Bondi lied and Trump told everyone to stop talking about Epstein 

What do you think people, especially the left, will do when Trump tells them to stop talking about something?

You can admit Trump is playing his own base yet, you still support him

Point that you can’t grasp is the comparison of Adam Schiff making claims about Trump Russia Collusion was a political football where Trump used Epstein as a political football.  They all do it.  Say this or that to work the base.  

Where you are ignoring..

“Which has what to do with all the made up crap several groups have used to try to frame Trump over the years. But then pass up a supposed opportunity under the Biden administration with the FBI director’s daughter as the lead prosecutor for the Maxwell case.

If Trump is guilty, prosecute the SOB.  Just strange if the opportunity was there under Biden.  The made so much crap up why not make up something about Trump and Epstein.”

If there was any evidence of Trump being tied to illegal activities with Epstein, why would the Biden administration ignore it and work on BS charges that had zero merit?

[cherokeetroy]

Hundreds of thousands of people have some sort of link to Epstein.
Are they all pedophiles?
What about innocent people?
You do understand that there's a reason why you have to prove guilt and why you don't have to prove innocence, right?
No matter how innocent Trump may be you can't actually prove he's innocent. You can only lack the evidence to prove he's guilty.
It's similar to how you can't prove a negative.
The way some people here talk about this is completely illogical and thus driven by their own personal FEELINGS about Trump, or about the government (or any other "cabal.")

If no evidence indicating Trump has committed a crime is ever found, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But the same is true for anyone - prove that YOU aren't a pedophile. Prove THAT evidence doesn't exist.
Good luck with that.

Harte

The main topic of discussion at the moment isn't the question of whether or not Trump is a pedophile 

It isn't even the question of whether or not Trump may have raped young women or girls 

It's the question of why Trump and his administration refuse to provide transparency regarding the subject of Epstein

[WallFlowerActive]

It's the question of why Trump and his administration refuse to provide transparency regarding the subject of Epstein

Probably Trump made claims about the Epstein case without actually seeing the “files” to work elements of his base.  Then when he actually has access to the files, realized he wrote checks he couldn’t cash as in the things he claimed wasn’t in the “files”.

Politicians make stuff up, it’s not hard to understand.  Or more they manufacture specific items to work specific elements of their base.  And yes. It has hurt Trump.  But it’s on a specific item that isn’t even in the top 5 or 7 reasons why most people voted for Trump with bigger fish to fry.  Like actual live illegal aliens engaging in human trafficking drawing the scale of Epstein’s “network”.

[cherokeetroy]

Point that you can’t grasp is the comparison of Adam Schiff making claims about Trump Russia Collusion was a political football where Trump used Epstein as a political football.  They all do it.  Say this or that to work the base.  

Where you are ignoring..

“Which has what to do with all the made up crap several groups have used to try to frame Trump over the years. But then pass up a supposed opportunity under the Biden administration with the FBI director’s daughter as the lead prosecutor for the Maxwell case.

If Trump is guilty, prosecute the SOB.  Just strange if the opportunity was there under Biden.  The made so much crap up why not make up something about Trump and Epstein.”

If there was any evidence of Trump being tied to illegal activities with Epstein, why would the Biden administration ignore it and work on BS charges that had zero merit?

What you fail to grasp is there's a portion of Trump's base (obviously not including you because you don't care) who don't accept the excuse of using Epstein as a "political football". They expected transparency 

Whether you like it or not, the  Epstein stuff isn't fading away

Don't blame me, blame Trump

[cherokeetroy]

Probably Trump made claims about the Epstein case without actually seeing the “files” to work elements of his base.  Then when he actually has access to the files, realized he wrote checks he couldn’t cash as in the things he claimed wasn’t in the “files”.

Politicians make stuff up, it’s not hard to understand.  Or more they manufacture specific items to work specific elements of their base.  And yes. It has hurt Trump.  But it’s on a specific item that isn’t even in the top 5 or 7 reasons why most people voted for Trump with bigger fish to fry.  Like actual live illegal aliens engaging in human trafficking drawing the scale of Epstein’s “network”.

Like I said, Trump has painted himself into a corner with this issue 

Relying on the excuse it's just politics as usual isn't gonna cut it

Don't blame the people for wanting answers about a possible coverup involving politicians abusing minors

Blame the politicians doing the covering up

[WallFlowerActive]

Whether you like it or not, the  Epstein stuff isn't fading away

I hope there is actual justice for actual victims.  Something you don’t seem to care about, because you are treating this like a political football.

Unfortunately there are bigger fish to fry.  The national debt.  National Security.  Illegal immigration and the large scale human trafficking ran by drug cartels.  So Trump isn’t going away soon either.

[WallFlowerActive]

Like I said, Trump has painted himself into a corner with this issue 

How?  Maybe for you.  But not for the average person who voted for Trump on matters of inflation, immigration, and national security.

[cherokeetroy]

I hope there is actual justice for actual victims.  Something you don’t seem to care about, because you are treating this like a political football.

Unfortunately there are bigger fish to fry.  The national debt.  National Security.  Illegal immigration and the large scale human trafficking ran by drug cartels.  So Trump isn’t going away soon either.

I'm not the one treating this like a political football 

You said it yourself 

Trump is

I know it sounds bizarre but there are people in existence who actually want to know if our government is involved in sexual abuse of minors or women in general

[cherokeetroy]

How?  Maybe for you.  But not for the average person who voted for Trump on matters of inflation, immigration, and national security.

If it's a non-issue then there wouldn't be anything to discuss, would there

[WallFlowerActive]

I'm not the one treating this like a political football 

You said it yourself 

Trump is

I know it sounds bizarre but there are people in existence who actually want to know if our government is involved in sexual abuse of minors or women in general

Really.  Because you seem to have zero caring and empathy for the victims and victim rights concerning the case.  Where you have really no proof of anything.  While Trump is going after human trafficking and trying to clean up DC.  Where the Biden administration had time to nail Trump if Trump was tied to illegal Epstein activity.