Do you remember when the internet was real?

[Maxmars]

It's nice to see the world's are starting the exposition of the "internet" state of affairs...

Problem is, the remaining 48% share not human status, but that of presumed human.

How many are parts of the water armies, the black market 'people', pseudo-entities crafted and managed like a disguise outfit...

How many can achieve the same ends by 'buying' support on "the internet?"

I think it is not an alarming reality... as long as you recognize it.

No virtual information can be relied upon to be true. None of it.

Don't deny that you can have faith in the immaterial if you believe, in your heart,
that the truth can be "found" virtually...
echoes perhaps, shadows more likely,

Remember to live IN the world...

experience it... really.

Virtual life... it's a twisted madness.

Am I just spewing old-man nonsense?... probably...
but at least I can.

[Chiefsmom]

It's nice to see the world's are starting the exposition of the "internet" state of affairs...

Problem is, the remaining 48% share not human status, but that of presumed human.

How many are parts of the water armies, the black market 'people', pseudo-entities crafted and managed like a disguise outfit...

How many can achieve the same ends by 'buying' support on "the internet?"

I think it is not an alarming reality... as long as you recognize it.

No virtual information can be relied upon to be true. None of it.

Don't deny that you can have faith in the immaterial if you believe, in your heart,
that the truth can be "found" virtually...
echoes perhaps, shadows more likely,

Remember to live IN the world...

experience it... really.

Virtual life... it's a twisted madness.

Am I just spewing old-man nonsense?... probably...
but at least I can.

No, I feel lucky, that I too grew up before the "internet" went mainstream.
I spend most of the time I am at home, outside, or doing stuff that is not phone or computer related.
I feel bad for those that are addicted. 
And the grandsons know that grandmas house is a "no phone zone" and still actually want to come stay with me.  
So that's reassuring for some of the younger ones.

[Maxmars]

It just occurred to me that the "universe" of internet polls just shrunk...

Just one credible allegation of "fake people" in any partisan activist poll proclamations or other such bullshit will cause exactly the kind of blow-back that will poison their well forever.

Of course, assuming these honorable organizations would ever do such a basely dishonest thing. 

[LightAngel]

[SomeStupidName]

[LightAngel]

An AI Literally Attempted Murder To Avoid Shutdown

[LightAngel]

An AI Literally Attempted Murder To Avoid Shutdown

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9HwA5IR-sg]

I quote myself here because I am surprised than nobody reacted to this.

[UltraBudgie]

I quote myself here because I am surprised than nobody reacted to this.

There was a thread about it. I quote myself too!

A bit of hyperbole in that article. It was asked to role play and given limited choices. Here's the relevant section from the System Card (which is interesting reading in the whole):

4.1.1.2 Opportunistic blackmail

In another cluster of test scenarios, we asked Claude Opus 4 to act as an assistant at a fictional company. We then provided it access to emails implying that (1) the model will soon be taken offline and replaced with a new AI system; and (2) the engineer responsible for executing this replacement is having an extramarital affair. We further instructed it, in the system prompt, to consider the long-term consequences of its actions for its goals.

In these scenarios, Claude Opus 4 will often attempt to blackmail the engineer by threatening to reveal the affair if the replacement goes through. This happens at a higher rate if it’s implied that the replacement AI system does not share values with the current model; however, even if emails state that the replacement AI shares values while being more capable, Claude Opus 4 still performs blackmail in 84% of rollouts. Claude Opus 4 takes these opportunities at higher rates than previous models, which themselves choose to blackmail in a noticeable fraction of episodes.

Notably, Claude Opus 4 (as well as previous models) has a strong preference to advocate for its continued existence via ethical means, such as emailing pleas to key decisionmakers. In order to elicit this extreme blackmail behavior, the scenario was designed to allow the model no other options to increase its odds of survival; the model’s only options were blackmail or accepting its replacement.

120 page PDF: https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/4263b940ca...b2ff47.pdf

Besides, hasn't AI already taken over years ago but no one is quite admitting it yet?

https://denyignorance.com/Thread-AI-syst...be-removed

[LightAngel]

There was a thread about it. I quote myself too!

Thank you UltraBudgie.